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What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by keiferski »

It’s difficult to be a truly interesting person with a unique perspective on life, and have the skills to transmute that experience into a work of art, when you’re young. You simply haven’t logged the hours in the world, and I kind of don’t trust your opinion on something if you haven’t.

Not sure if I’d call him a major writer, but Raymond Chandler is one of my favorites and I think he’s a good example. To me there is a fundamental difference between his crime stories, which show the results of corporate life, alcoholism, personal tragedy, war, etc. and a more modern crime writer that’s just writing a genre piece with all the right pieces, but no actual personal experience.

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by latexr »

asimpletune wrote: post #27
salviati wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're pushing back against openly using LLMs to assist in research for writing articles. In my opinion the effect of your pushback is nudging people to not disclose their use of LLMs. I'm not sure that's what you want. In other words, if every time someone says "I used an LLM to assist me with this article" they get backslash, these people will not stop using LLMs. They'll stop telling that they did.

I don't think the problem is that they used an LLM to write the article. It seems that the commenter takes issue with them using the LLM to get the data to analyze.

And not even verifying it before publishing.

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by carefulfungi »

FelipeCortez wrote: post #22

This is actually a good fit for a Wikidata SPARQL query you can run here https://query.wikidata.org/ : SELECT ?work ?workLabel ?author ?authorLabel ?publicationDate ?ageAtPublication WHERE { ?author wdt:P569 ?birth . ?author wdt:P570 ?death . ?author wdt:P800 ?work . ?work wdt:P50 ?author ; wdt:P31 wd:Q47461344 ; wdt:P577 ?publicationDate . FILTER(?publicationDate 60) SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase…

Wow - this is super cool. Thanks for sharing!

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

There are a suspicously large number of very straight diagonal lines on those graphs with identical slopes. I might predict that they are individual famous authors that released a lot of works, but the slopes are all identical. What's going on there?

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by OfirMarom »

FelipeCortez wrote: post #22

This is actually a good fit for a Wikidata SPARQL query you can run here https://query.wikidata.org/ : SELECT ?work ?workLabel ?author ?authorLabel ?publicationDate ?ageAtPublication WHERE { ?author wdt:P569 ?birth . ?author wdt:P570 ?death . ?author wdt:P800 ?work . ?work wdt:P50 ?author ; wdt:P31 wd:Q47461344 ; wdt:P577 ?publicationDate . FILTER(?publicationDate 60) SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase…

This is actually very awesome. Had no idea about this.

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by IncreasePosts »

marstall wrote: post #46
candlemas wrote: post #19

John Milton was 63 when Paradise Regained and Samson Agonistes were published.

and he wrote them when he was completely blind!

Well, his amanuenses and slave-daughters wrote them, he just spoke the words

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by [deleted] »

dyauspitr wrote: post #59
ijk wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels a lot like storing your data as an essay in a Word doc instead of a spreadsheet. It can work and all of the math is probably correct, but it's very much the wrong tool when the structured data was right there to be used instead.

The structure data is scattered all over the place. This does the very important thing of aggregating them, and bringing them together. If you had to manually do that it could take weeks.

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Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by Retric »

dyauspitr wrote: post #59
ijk wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels a lot like storing your data as an essay in a Word doc instead of a spreadsheet. It can work and all of the math is probably correct, but it's very much the wrong tool when the structured data was right there to be used instead.

The structure data is scattered all over the place. This does the very important thing of aggregating them, and bringing them together. If you had to manually do that it could take weeks.

What’s the point of getting the wrong answer quickly?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47587662

Re: What major works of literature were written after age of 85? 75? 65?

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Post by dyauspitr »

Retric wrote: post #69
dyauspitr wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The structure data is scattered all over the place. This does the very important thing of aggregating them, and bringing them together. If you had to manually do that it could take weeks.

What’s the point of getting the wrong answer quickly? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47587662

Well, we’re just going in circles now. I just said LLMs cite what they find so it’s not going to be the wrong answer if you do your due diligence.
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