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Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by defrost »

anukin wrote: post #60
defrost wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There were no posts here for Sudanese people. You've made two submissions, neither were about Sudan. > None for Nigerian Christians Here's one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45789043 > Only when Muslims suffer from hands of non Muslims, there are protests and posts in support of them. There are vast numbers of posts about Ukraine and its attack by Russia. Daily I see many comments expressing human feelings f…

I have seen posts about Palestine here much more than the one you got for the Nigerian Christians. The one you got is from 2025 even when the issue is still ongoing. Maybe your impressions are muddied?

Your impression was there were _none_.

That error on your part aside, submission _topics_ here on HN are biased toward US / Western / English speaking tech interests and geographies ...

Hence the low low number of Chinese posts about tech in rural China, etc.

The topics that are posted, however (eg: Gaza, Ukraine in the political sphere) attract a breadth of viewpoints (both pro Israel and pro Palestine in the Gaza example).

Your post above essentially laments that everything is pro Muslim on HN.

You are wrong.

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by amunozo »

iJohnDoe wrote: post #48
adnanc wrote: post #4

Nothing shocks anymore With all this brutality and dehumanisation, no wonder the IDF are seeing the highest rates of PTSD and suicide.

Genuine question. Are you indicating the IDF are not supporters or don’t believe in what they are doing? Their actions are forced because of duty? I guess if a massacre is a massacre then it would have a high chance of affecting those involved regardless of belief.

I think even if they agree at first, this can be traumatic anyway. If I remember correctly, I read about Vietnam veterans that killed civilians including children out of anger and then were horribly traumatized. So both things can be true.

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by johnbarron »

khaledh wrote: post #41

The list keeps growing. - Flour massacre - World Central Kitchen drone strikes - Gaza aid distribution massacres - Rafah paramedics massacre - Targeting of journalists - Forced starvation - Crop destruction Israel will deny all of those. But the world have seen it with their own eyes.

"Israeli politician Yitzik Kroizer endorses targeting children": https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1s42uo8/isr...

"IDF assault and arrest CNN journalists covering the settlements": https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1s5zzey/isr...

"Israel responsible for two-thirds of record 129 press killings in 2025" - https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/25/record-number-...

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by austin-cheney »

cineticdaffodil wrote: post #42
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #10

This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that th…

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What islamo supremacists? What are you talking about? I just see constant news stories of genocidal violence against children in Gaza and settlers shooting unarmed teenagers or old women in the West Bank.

To ensure there is no bias going on lets talk in numbers.

* How many children have died in Gaza versus Israel in the last two years?

* How many Israelis have died in the West Bank as a result of violence in the last two years as compared to Palestinians in the West Bank?

From the outside looking in everything looks like a bunch of racists inventing their own narrative, without evidence, to justify killing children and taking land. The US, where I am from, went through this too a century ago on a much smaller scale in what the US calls lynchings and again a century before that with forced relocations.

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by ricardobeat »

camgunz wrote: post #56
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #10

This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that th…

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The article has several sources including Sky News and the Red Cross, the IDF confirmed the arrest and the father is still missing even though nothing happened. Protesting actions like these is not anti-semitism.

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by TheGuyWhoCodes »

austin-cheney wrote: post #64
cineticdaffodil wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What islamo supremacists? What are you talking about? I just see constant news stories of genocidal violence against children in Gaza and settlers shooting unarmed teenagers or old women in the West Bank. To ensure there is no bias going on lets talk in numbers. * How many children have died in Gaza versus Israel in the last two years? * How many Israelis have died in the West Bank as a result of violence in the last…

> What islamo supremacists?

Ever heard of the Muslim Brotherhood (Erdogan is one of them for example), Hamas, IRGC, ISIS??

Go watch what these Muslim immigrants shout in the streets of Germany saying it's their land now and they will enact sharia law and create a new caliphate, then come back and talk about islamo supremacists.

The "normal" Muslims are so against "colonization" but are ok, and see no issue, that Arabs conquered all the Middle East and North Africa killing millions and forcing conversion.

> How many children have died in Gaza versus Israel in the last two years?

We don't actually know how many died and how many were innocent children as the count is run by Hamas and they count all the children soldiers as non combatants.

> How many Israelis have died in the West Bank as a result of violence in the last two years as compared to Palestinians in the West Bank?

Why only count in Judea and samaria? 100 Israelis were killed and hundreds were injured just in Judea and samaria, it goes up to 250 in Israel proper. The only reason this number isn't higher is the tight security control that was even more strengthened after 7/10.

As always the PA publishes causality numbers that include terrorists that were eliminated or even died in prison.

Number don't tell the whole story, they lack context.

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by amazingman »

Hikikomori wrote: post #5

>"The claims that the IDF abused a toddler are completely unfounded and serve Hamas propaganda." The spokesperson said. >"On the contrary: The toddler was brought by a Hamas operative into a dangerous area to be used as a human shield. Same old denials as usual, aren't they getting tired? These spokespersons don't know anything, their only job is to deny that anything happened. Which does work a lot if there are no w…

Are you claiming the Hamas does not use the entire civilian population under their rule as human shields? I hope not, because that reality is obvious. It's not merely individuals, either: it's policy.

(Before responding with rhetoric in the other direction, please note that I have not taken a position on Israel here.)

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by camgunz »

ricardobeat wrote: post #65
camgunz wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The article has several sources including Sky News and the Red Cross, the IDF confirmed the arrest and the father is still missing even though nothing happened. Protesting actions like these is not anti-semitism.

The article is essentially just the Sky News video in print. The parts that aren't are like "we couldn't verify this", like this quote:

"I observed multiple deep, uniform lesions on his lower body, which are clinically consistent with deliberate cigarette burns used as a form of physical torture," she told Sky News. The Independent could not verify the report.

It does not use the Red Cross as a source.

Did you read the article? The kid's father carried him into the yellow zone and the IDF had to shoot the ground to get him to stop approaching. Did you watch the video? The kid's injuries are consistent with shrapnel from that, including "a wound caused by a sharp object", described in more detail later on by his mother as "entry and exit wounds... [i]t seems like they used a metal tool to pierce him." Weird, that's exactly what shrapnel is....

> Protesting actions like these is not anti-semitism

Parroting garbage like this, being a useful idiot for anti-semites, is anti-semitic. People walking on to this issue in the last year or so thinking they have moral clarity on it while knowing literally nothing about the history or all the groups involved are only making a bad situation worse.

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by Hikikomori »

amazingman wrote: post #67
Hikikomori wrote: post #5

>"The claims that the IDF abused a toddler are completely unfounded and serve Hamas propaganda." The spokesperson said. >"On the contrary: The toddler was brought by a Hamas operative into a dangerous area to be used as a human shield. Same old denials as usual, aren't they getting tired? These spokespersons don't know anything, their only job is to deny that anything happened. Which does work a lot if there are no w…

Are you claiming the Hamas does not use the entire civilian population under their rule as human shields? I hope not, because that reality is obvious. It's not merely individuals, either: it's policy. (Before responding with rhetoric in the other direction, please note that I have not taken a position on Israel here.)

Where would they go where there isn't civilians that isn't just target practice for Israel?

But let's flip it, Israel does it, like outting a military HQ in a mall.

It's just an excuse used by Israel to obliterate any building they want. Hamas shot some missile from there 10 minute's ago (why would they stay around?), so they send a bomb that takes out the block. Any civilians were just human shields anyway.

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