Is there something like this on top of nostr too? I'd much rather see nostr because it's truly open.
Does Nostr have private content? That's a required feature for a chat platform.
Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small
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Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small
#62Interesting project, but... > BUILT ON OPEN STANDARDS. PRIVATE WHEN NEEDED. > Running a private group chat? As soon as the AT protocol supports private data, we'll work on implementing it and giving you the option to create private communities. Not exactly "private when needed" then, is it? It's disingenuous to even mention this in the marketing copy.
Valid point! I'll get that section removed for now and either reword it later, or re-add when the protocol supports it.
The problem for atproto will be getting a permission system that can enable enough parity with Discord that it has a competitive experience.
I was working on this, taking a break from atproto, re: bluesky "leadership" who defacto decide what does and does not get into the protocol via the PDS used by 99% of users.
Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small
#63Is there something like this on top of nostr too? I'd much rather see nostr because it's truly open.
Does Nostr have private content? That's a required feature for a chat platform.
Well it could just be E2EE'd right? That's more of a required feature IMO.
PS: I'm not sure if Nostr has this but bluesky currently doesn't.
Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree that is borderline negligence, and by far the biggest issue with AT and Bsky. Here is what I believe to be the most recent discussion on that topic: https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/discussions/3363
Theres more recent updates on it in a blog post from Bluesky head of protocol: https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3mhj6bcqats2o
Very cool! Thanks for sharing that.
Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
First, the user knows this when joining a public community. Second, the moderators can choose to remove someone who has joined the community in bad faith. Third, it is entirely different than broadcasting every single action taken by every single user in every single community on the entire protocol to anyone with one URL.
the moderators can choose to remove someone who has joined the community in bad faith unless you prevent new members from reading the chat history until given permission then they can already read everything before they are kicked out, and they can come back with a different account. you also can not detect people acting in bad faith if all they do is read. basically, you can't expect privacy if you don't limit membe…
> the moderators can choose to remove someone who has joined the community in bad faith
This is one of the challenges of building a Discord alternative on atproto. Allow access or not, how moderation works, and having shared ownership that can change.
Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does Nostr have private content? That's a required feature for a chat platform.
Well it could just be E2EE'd right? That's more of a required feature IMO. PS: I'm not sure if Nostr has this but bluesky currently doesn't.
Key distribution puts a limit on scalability for E2EE, eg: Signal / Telegram user limits
There is an E2EE messaging system that works with atproto DIDs, based on MLS, called "germ". People who have accounts can have them associated with the Bluesky profile for easy association. They only had a iOS app last I heard, so most people cannot use it.
Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi! We've got Forum-Style channels planned, similar to Discords, would that work for you? It'd still be a single text channel, and you could have multiple of them per community.
Thanks for the reply! I'm not too familiar with Discords forums so will do a bit of digging
The comments are not trees like Reddit. It's more like a list of questions you click into for a thread. Basically a channel where the top level is a list of threads, has more permanence than threads in normal chat channels.
Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small
#68Users in a Discord server/local community on tools like Discord naturally expect that their actions within that community are private in so far as they trust everyone in the community (including the operator) to keep it so. By using ATProto, Colibri fundamentally makes all of your communication within any community completely public to everyone on the internet. That’s fine for something like Twitter, where the produc…
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#69> This implementation is almost entirely vibe-coded for the purpose of being able to quickly get started with development of the main application. It will be re-written in the near future to take advantage of Tap and be reworked to include all user data storage as well as any OAuth capabilities, which currently reside within the website's backend. If you are interested in helping with this, start a discussion on this repo!
https://github.com/colibri-social/appview/blob/main/README.m...
Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small
#70"For public private conversations" Go home guys