Live data from Hacker News

Apple Business

apple.com

61–70 of 461 posts

Re: Apple Business

#61

So do enterprises still need Jamf [1]? For context, Jamf is one of the most common MDM tools for organizations. [1]: https://www.jamf.com/

Big yes. Enterprises need support and a relationship with their supplier where their needs can change product direction. Jamf will do that. Apple will not.

Dunno if you've ever had a business relationship with Apple but they're really good on that front. Proactive and helpful, along with always trying to sell you stuff, but proactive and helpful nonetheless.

Re: Apple Business

#62
post #8

Who will Apple serve? Users, Apple or their partners? It has always been Apple > Users > Partners. There's a reason why Microsoft is still the king of enterprises. Anybody getting involved with this with Apple will deserve everything thats coming their way

Thousands in annual savings?

Not on iOS, being locked into the App Store never saved me a dime.

Re: Apple Business

#63

Will we be able to change our company details? A couple of years ago we changed the business name, so let's change it in the account for billing and such. Not possible. Ok, let's ask support what to do: the only thing we can do is create a new account, get the approval, etc. and then ask for a migration that may or may not be approved and may or may not end succesfully. In the end we keep receiving the bills in the o…

A bit like the awful workflow around developer agreements in App Store Connect. Every few months our CI breaks because Apple has updated one agreement or another and someone has to go pester the executive who's marked as the account owner and has legal authority to sign new agreements to unbreak our CI.

It's also impossible to delegate this authority to anyone other than the account owner, and there's no concept of shared or service accounts, so nobody other than the account owner, with access to their 2FA method is able to do this.

Heaven forbid if the account owner was ever to put their 2FA method as a personal device / phone and then leave the company.

Re: Apple Business

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vision Pro failed Apple fails at every novel thing they try and crushes it at every thing they copy

Apple Watch.

There were literally thousands of smart watches that were launched prior to the Apple Watch

Garmin anyone?

I think Timex and Casio even had ones in the 90s

Re: Apple Business

#65
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big yes. Enterprises need support and a relationship with their supplier where their needs can change product direction. Jamf will do that. Apple will not.

Dunno if you've ever had a business relationship with Apple but they're really good on that front. Proactive and helpful, along with always trying to sell you stuff, but proactive and helpful nonetheless.

A B2C relationship and a B2B relationship are not the same thing. Apple does well with the B2C pipeline, but they will only surpass Jamf in the B2B department if they play dirty.

Re: Apple Business

#66

business.apple.com doesn't work in Firefox, it redirects you to https://business.apple.com/abm_unsupported_browser?reason=Br... Fuck you Apple.

  Supported browser:  
  Safari (14.1 or later)  
  Chrome (87 or later)  
  Microsoft Edge (87 or later)
https://support.apple.com/guide/apple-business-manager/progr...

We live in fantastic times

Re: Apple Business

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

*499$ with an EDU discount which definitely means they have margin for business deals. Revenge of the Mac. Theirs simply no reason for any normal person to buy anything else. The year of Linux is deferred yet again.

Agreed. I'd love to see what prices companies get for volume purchases. I'm the IT Manager in a small team and if the Neo and this was available last year when we set up MDM/Exchange/SharePoint I would have considered it. Specially on the hardware side, ROI/longevity on an Apple Silicon Macbook is times higher than any given Windows laptop.

Less stuff to go wrong.

One point of contact for support.

Microsoft isn't going to get it together anytime soon, it's a new dawn.

Re: Apple Business

#68
Wow, Apple's finally competing with Google and Microsoft, I can see businesses adopting this everywhere lol, then again Idk as a lot of companies are already in Google and Microsoft's ecosystem.

Re: Apple Business

#69
post #5

Apple's really late to this.

Apple is “late” to everything which is why it’s the leader Being early is the same as being wrong and there’s no business value in costly exploration of new territory at least in the 21st century Name me a single company that is still in business and dominating a market based on being first to market with a new product.

Depending on how you define "new" but there are certainly examples of this, Spotify is the first to come to mind, AWS could be another.

Re: Apple Business

#70
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vision Pro.

Vision Pro failed Apple fails at every novel thing they try and crushes it at every thing they copy

The iPhone was revolutionary. There really was nothing like it at the time. The closest thing (the PDA) was _nothing_ like it.
Post reply on HN