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The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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If the admins can "lock all transactions", what's the point of it being a crypto?

Exactly. Stablecoins make zero sense.

Stablecoins enable cash-like (instantly redeemable and verifiable) payments for large amounts, for almost free.

In EU countries, you can't now buy a car with cash. You have to buy a bearer's check from your bank, which is expensive, requires that both parties have a brick and mortar bank, and doesn't work cross-border. Stablecoins solve this.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

#62
post #33

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Stablecoins aren't cryptocurrencies in any sense of the word. It's just electronic FIAT.

I mean they use Blockchain, right? Isn't that like the only real requirement for the name crypto? As long as you burn as much electricity as Andorra does in a week just to make a transaction, you're probably a cryptocurrency. And that's their sole benefit it seems.

Most blockchains nowadays are not proof of work anymore.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

#63

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Exactly. Stablecoins make zero sense.

Stablecoins enable cash-like (instantly redeemable and verifiable) payments for large amounts, for almost free. In EU countries, you can't now buy a car with cash. You have to buy a bearer's check from your bank, which is expensive, requires that both parties have a brick and mortar bank, and doesn't work cross-border. Stablecoins solve this.

How do stablecoins fit in here? You can buy a car with crypto but not cash?

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

#64
post #47

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They’re not really meant to go up in value. The main use is just having something dollar-like that you can move around easily. That’s useful outside the US, but also for plenty of people inside the US depending on what they’re doing; especially businesses that have a hard time getting or keeping normal banking (cough gambling, porn, weed cough). They’re handy inside crypto since you can move in/out of other assets wi…

Ah, so we're basically battling the prudishness of VISA and MasterCard? That... Actually makes sense.. Which is a rare feat for crypto!

Stablecoins present less frictions, have cheaper transaction costs and less intermediaries susceptible to block them. It greatly increases the velocity of money.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

#65
post #25

What is the point of stable coins? Like why does anyone buy them? It seems to me that their initial value is 1usd per token (or some other fiat I guess) and that's also the roof of their value: they kinda guarantee that they won't become more valuable than that. They are less usable than fiat: more businesses accept fiat than crypto, especially weird and small coins like all stable coins are. There isn't really a flo…

I think the idea is if you're attempting to actually use crypto in the way that you would normally use money (ie, to buy/sell stuff) then you don't want the volatility. So in theory, it takes away the volatility while living within the crypto ecosystem.

But obviously...things happen. Just like cash is usually relatively non-volatile, but financial crashes happen.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

#66
post #30

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To take advantage of the ability to send money that way without the volatility

Let’s be honest, it’s principally for illicit use, a tiny fraction of privacy folks and then a lot of people caught in between who don’t understand yield but want to bet on a volatile asset and have to use a stablecoin to go between. (Because the backers of the volatile thing are doing something illicit.)

You are a decade late, nowadays stablecoins are commonly used in international trade. Most Alibaba sellers accept USDT nowadays, same for Indian ones.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

#67
post #59

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I am outside the US. Many of my assets are in USD and USD-denominated securities. I've never touched a stablecoin. Waiting to hear what "most people outside the US" are supposed to need those stablecoins for.

Most people don't realize they're inside a plexiglass shielded financial jail until they try to do something like wiring money for some legal activity in someplace spicy or on the FATF grey list. If you fall into the middle bands of uses, or in the upper class that can just bend or make the rules, then the financial system is well oiled and it looks like the people questioning it are just cranks. It's true that a lot…

This comment isn't really beating the rap that the primary purpose of stablecoins is to facilitate crime.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

#68
post #45

According to a writeup at https://www.chainalysis.com/blog/lessons-from-the-resolv-hac... this started with a plain old hack that compromised their signing key. They also had a smart contract which didn't do some proper checks, but the hack was only possible with the stolen private key. Whoever held the private key was able to mint a lot of money, unchecked. So there was a traditional hack at the core of this heist,…

Is there any proof, or even indication, that this wasn't an inside job?

Usually I would expect proof for a positive - like that it was an inside job, or there being an indication of it. I'm not saying whether it was or not, just that it seems unusual for you to ask about proof of it NOT being an inside job.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

#69
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean they use Blockchain, right? Isn't that like the only real requirement for the name crypto? As long as you burn as much electricity as Andorra does in a week just to make a transaction, you're probably a cryptocurrency. And that's their sole benefit it seems.

>I mean they use Blockchain, right? Isn't that like the only real requirement for the name crypto? Absolutely not. Cryptocurrently exclusively refers to permissionless, decentralized, cryptographically secured, irreversible, fungible monetary system with a disinflationary or non-inflationary supply, following a voluntary, collectivized governance model. A vast majority of tokens colloquially referred to as "cryptocur…

If your definition excludes Ethereum your understanding of the term so differs from everyone else's that we aren't talking about the same thing
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