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Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

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Re: Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

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Post by orwin »

0xy wrote: post #17
vkou wrote: post #15

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Their bills are the clean bills. Yesterday's vote was a simple yea or nay for TSA funding. The Republicans voted against it. The GOP refuses to fund the TSA without tying a whole bunch of other fascist shit to it. This crisis is manufactured.

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I'm not sure about all the Americains acronyms, so DHS is Department of Homeland Security i guess, what does it have to do with your Emergency department? if i understand correctly, FEMA is your federal hurricane/flood/fire emergency response, wouldn't it be better for it to work closer with meteorologists and urban development? or at worst be independent?

And especially if so much is put under the same umbrella, i would rather have my representative vote the funding of one sub-agency after the other. Yes it is more work for them, but that's their job, and "all included" budgets bill are, in my opinion and after my government shafted us 3 time in a row, undemocratic.

Re: Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

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Post by 0xy »

selectodude wrote: post #32
0xy wrote: post #21

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Why do you oppose FEMA funding?

What’s left of FEMA? Anyway their disaster response is not impacted by the lapse in funding. They’re currently on the ground doing something or other in Hawaii.

This is completely incorrect. FEMA has ceased public assistance for ongoing and historical disasters.

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Post by 0xy »

orwin wrote: post #61
0xy wrote: post #17

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I'm not sure about all the Americains acronyms, so DHS is Department of Homeland Security i guess, what does it have to do with your Emergency department? if i understand correctly, FEMA is your federal hurricane/flood/fire emergency response, wouldn't it be better for it to work closer with meteorologists and urban development? or at worst be independent? And especially if so much is put under the same umbrella, i w…

FEMA is a part of DHS, and none of the bills proposed by Democrats fund it.

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Post by cosmicgadget »

zthrowaway wrote: post #34
rdegges wrote: post #31

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Throwaway accounts and more propaganda isn’t proof of anything. I think it’s pretty clear that untrained, unaccountable armed people who have already killed multiple US citizens that they have no jurisdiction over is a real-world worry that people have. It’s silly to dismiss rational, logic-based worry as “propaganda”.

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The Kavanaugh Stop is brand new. So are the shock and awe tactics.

Safe to assume you aren't from here?

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Post by 0xy »

vkou wrote: post #27
0xy wrote: post #26

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Huh? The Democrats bill did not include FEMA funding.

Give them a clean FEMA bill, and they'll vote for it.

They had 5 chances to do so and explicitly excluded it, so I don't see how that can possibly be true. Is your argument that they're incapable of constructing a bill representing their position?

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Post by pennomi »

Buttons840 wrote: post #6
java-man wrote: post #2

Step 2 in a nazi takeover of the United States. More is coming.

I don't know if I'd phrase it like that. It does show they see ICE as a fix all police they can deploy for a wide variety of purposes though. ICE is better funded than some branches of the military, and they are demonstrating they are willing to use ICE for whatever they think needs to be done.

How is creation of a Gestapo analogue NOT a step towards Nazi-style authoritarianism?

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Post by cosmicgadget »

0xy wrote: post #20
vkou wrote: post #19

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They'll vote for a clean TSA funding bill. Why are the reps tying all the star chamber shit they are doing with ICE to TSA funding?

Cool, so no FEMA funding. Good luck with the next disaster everyone, Democrats are politically grandstanding again.

"Things aren't looking good for us with TSA funding. Better pivot to FEMA!"

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Post by estearum »

Buttons840 wrote: post #52
apothegm wrote: post #44

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Misinformation, low voter turnout, and an electoral system that massively over-represents people living in areas of low population density and underrepresents those living in areas of high population density. That’s ignoring any possibility of interference with insecure voting or tallying computers.

We need paper ballots because people can understand them. Election conspiracy theories are becoming a problem. Having a counting process that people can understand and trust is a feature.

Conspiratorial thinking can't be fixed with additional facts. There is no set of facts that conclusively establish any claim to someone who is already committed not to believing the claim.
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