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Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by wincy »

longislandguido wrote: post #26
lateforwork wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buggy as well as severe UX regressions. It is so unfortunate that their software division is underperforming when their hardware team is outperforming. Craig Federighi, get your act together!

Such as new screenshot dialog in iOS, where one click has now become three, because we've hidden the primary controls under two pointless single-fold menus. I wonder if someone got a raise for that.

I like the new dialog? I basically always crop the image when screenshotting so the new UI results in less button pressing for me. How often do you need to capture your entire screen? I almost always want to focus on something.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by someotherperson »

furyofantares wrote: post #43
longislandguido wrote: post #8

Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. I counted 0 net improvements and countless new bugs. Apple is having their Windows ME moment. It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. It's all about the software they would say. The chickens have come home to roost.

> Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. What is everyone seeing that I'm not? I like Tahoe/iOS26, I haven't noticed regressions with it.

The icons in the menu bars are rough, the spacing isn’t great and the inconsistent window borders aren’t great.

I’m not that opinionated though - I don’t really care that much. But the part that sucked was installing it on a 2020 intel MacBook Pro. It basically made it unusable to the point of being ready to throw it out. Going back from Tahoe breathed so much life into it that it was fairly upsetting to see Apple release it. It reminded me of early iPhone updates that would basically brick older devices due to the performance impact.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by ceejayoz »

bigyabai wrote: post #11
kube-system wrote: post #9

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No, but the $600 MacBooks are coming straight for the $600 plastic shitbox windows laptops. The competition at this price point is weak.

Which was formerly challenged by the $700 Macbook Air, to little avail.

One of my kids had a college visit recently. Everyone had Macbooks.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by wetpaws »

furyofantares wrote: post #43
longislandguido wrote: post #8

Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. I counted 0 net improvements and countless new bugs. Apple is having their Windows ME moment. It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. It's all about the software they would say. The chickens have come home to roost.

> Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. What is everyone seeing that I'm not? I like Tahoe/iOS26, I haven't noticed regressions with it.

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Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by nickjj »

kube-system wrote: post #9
bigyabai wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plastic shitboxes are a very lucrative segment of the laptop market. I don't think the $600 Macbook will be displacing $200-$300 Chromebooks anytime soon.

No, but the $600 MacBooks are coming straight for the $600 plastic shitbox windows laptops. The competition at this price point is weak.

> The competition at this price point is weak.

Is it though?

6 months ago for $575, I picked up a 15" 1080p IPS display laptop with an AMD Ryzen 7 6800H (8 cores / 16 threads), 32 GB of DDR5 RAM, Radeon 680M iGPU that can use up to 8 GB VRAM and a 1 TB NVME SSD with a backlight keyboard, a bunch of USB ports and HDMI port. It weighs the same as a MBP and comes with a 2 year manufacturer warranty. It's upgradable to 64 GB of RAM and 2 TB SSD. It has Windows 11 but all of the parts are compatible with Linux if you want to go down that route.

It's from a brand I never heard of, Nimo N155 but I took a gamble and so far I couldn't be happier. The only problem now is there's major shortages and prices are jacked because of the RAM situation. The same model is $700 today and much harder to find, even their official site is out of stock on this model.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by ndr42 »

rishabhaiover wrote: post #51
nodesocket wrote: post #41

Neo is wily popular, but don't expect it to generate significant profits for Apple (disclosure I'm a AAPL shareholder). I assume the profit/profit margin on Neo is paper thin.

I wonder if this move is to grab customer base as much as they can before the supply chain crunch dents Apple manufacturing for the first time ever

I don't think that apple will be affected more than their peers.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by jtbergman »

longislandguido wrote: post #26
lateforwork wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buggy as well as severe UX regressions. It is so unfortunate that their software division is underperforming when their hardware team is outperforming. Craig Federighi, get your act together!

Such as new screenshot dialog in iOS, where one click has now become three, because we've hidden the primary controls under two pointless single-fold menus. I wonder if someone got a raise for that.

This can be changed back to the old version. Just search screen capture in settings and disable Full-Screen Previews.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by jakeydus »

jonny_eh wrote: post #32
longislandguido wrote: post #8

Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. I counted 0 net improvements and countless new bugs. Apple is having their Windows ME moment. It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. It's all about the software they would say. The chickens have come home to roost.

> It doesn't matter how much cheap hardware you throw at the unwashed masses. > Apple Announces New Mac Sales Record Following MacBook Neo Launch

Yeah, it apparently matters at least a little

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by jakeydus »

someotherperson wrote: post #62
furyofantares wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tahoe/iOS26 are still the most godawful buggy pieces of software Apple ever created. What is everyone seeing that I'm not? I like Tahoe/iOS26, I haven't noticed regressions with it.

The icons in the menu bars are rough, the spacing isn’t great and the inconsistent window borders aren’t great. I’m not that opinionated though - I don’t really care that much. But the part that sucked was installing it on a 2020 intel MacBook Pro. It basically made it unusable to the point of being ready to throw it out. Going back from Tahoe breathed so much life into it that it was fairly upsetting to see Apple re…

To be fair MacOS (and all apple software) is so heavily optimized for their current hardware. It is unfortunate that Intel macs are left behind, but my 2019 intel mac was capital-S Struggling with macos already in 2022. The M-series was such a leap forward. It’s a server under my desk now.

Re: Apple announces new Mac sales record following MacBook Neo launch

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Post by OJFord »

nicoburns wrote: post #45
bombcar wrote: post #39

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The problem has always been no direct "I want a Mac but Windows" laptop - before the switch to the M1 the best way to get a "Mac quality laptop" that ran windows was to put windows on a Mac. Go to Best Buy or walmart and fondle the Neo and then do the same with the other Windows laptops. Even though they may perform better (nay, even be better), they certainly do not feel like a premium product. Phones got this right…

Microsoft could probably put Windows on the M series macs if they wanted to. Windows for ARM exists, and Apple very specifically made the bootloader unlockable on the Apple Silicon laptops. I guess they might have to write a lot of the device drivers (including the GPU driver) themselves though, and there probably isn't much incentive for them to do that.

Microsoft doing that would be wild.

You used to be able to put it on Macs yourself, i.e. just install it the way you would on any computer, or equivalently put Linux on it. Now, see (all the work that has to be done by the team of) Asahi, except there's no Windows equivalent.

If MS did 'Asahi-Windows'... I don't know whether I'd expect Apple to sue or to make ads making fun of it, but it would be a wild time.

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