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The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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The company never made good software

Even Linus Torvalds himself acknowledges they have done some outstanding pieces of software (and I wholeheartedly agree with every word he says on this clip - it's absolutely on point about this thread's topic).

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BS-_ur-tYPw

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Me too

I recently helped liberate about 70 EOL'ed Chromebooks. Now students in a college near me will get free laptops they can actually use for college work, running the latest and greatest Linux distros.

SusyQ USB-C Cable + USB-A to USB-C Cable + Coreboot?

Recently liberated a Chromebook that powerwashed my hours of manual provisioning again due to remote login control failure FWICS

Can't believe how much faster the same machine is with a modern Linux distro.

(ChromiumOS was originally Gnome and Chrome on a Gentoo derivative by Linux workstation users, but now has a "Turn on Linux" button greyed out for all the kids.)

Mrchromebox > Supported Devices: https://docs.mrchromebox.tech/docs/supported-devices.html

It's possible to install a list of apps with a script on Win, Mac, and Linux computers.

Try to `adb install com.google.android.calculator`.

Which should be the security priority? App download counts or automated provisioning?

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Actual users are less important to Microsoft than execs who actually purchase the licenses.

Plus it's hard to buy a computer without paying the MS tax, unless you build one yourself. That's an issue I would like to see legislated! In fact, in my country there is a law that prohibits bundled purchases: it's just that the authorities are not tech savvy enough to see it when it pertains to computers and Windows.

While we're at it, lets stop bundling UEFI.

I'm being slightly absurd here since you need some sort of firmware to simply start up the computer and install an operating system, but here is my point: to most people, the operating system is part of the computer. The computer is simply an expensive brick without it. On top of that, a lot of the negativity towards bundling Windows originates from Microsoft's past monopolistic practices[1]. We certainly don't hear many people criticizing the bundling of macOS or iOS on Apple products or Android/Chrome OS on Android devices or Chromebooks. (There may be people who want to load alternative operating systems on these devices, but that is different from criticizing the bundling of the OS.)

[1] Is Microsoft forcing hardware vendors to install Windows even a thing these days?

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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I strongly prefer my Linux machine but use Windows mostly so that I can run Quicken. I feel doubly trapped: can't get off Quicken and thus can't get off Windows.

I'm only very slightly less reluctant to get an Apple machine (though the M* chips tempt me) and there will probably be incompatibilities between the versions of Quicken.

I think I should probably rip off the band-aid and migrate to:

+ spreadsheets (more control/future proof) + gnucash or similar (and risk that going unmaintained) + Wine + something I've not considered

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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I strongly prefer my Linux machine but use Windows mostly so that I can run Quicken. I feel doubly trapped: can't get off Quicken and thus can't get off Windows. I'm only very slightly less reluctant to get an Apple machine (though the M* chips tempt me) and there will probably be incompatibilities between the versions of Quicken. I think I should probably rip off the band-aid and migrate to: + spreadsheets (more con…

Do you need to run Quicken locally on your PC? Can you just use the cloud version of Quicken?

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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TL;DW: the exploding hate is due to Windows transitioning into a fully cloud-first OS.

Nobody passionately hates Chromebooks.

I really dislike the “expiration” date, and at one point they were very short (5 years) and poorly documented so it was a nasty surprise if you got an older model on sale.

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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I had to restore my son's desktop PC last night from a USB stick. It didn't even have drivers for graphics over 800x600 or the wifi card. I was flabbergasted. It's windows 11, 2026, a 6-month old PC. I genuinely don't know how someone could sell something this awful with a straight face. Windows was only ever better than DOS, by the same vendor. It's been awful compared to any competitor it's ever had. Really. I don'…

> It's been awful compared to any competitor it's ever had. TBH, Windows 3.1 was reasonably nice compared to macOS 7, and much faster than OS/2 or Solaris 2.1 on the same hardware.

Didn't MS also do OS/2 early on? Didn't they bill IBM by line of code?

I can't say much about Solaris, I used it - much later - on sparc and amd64.

I can say that I was writing 16 bit windows apps in '95, including drivers and VxDs, and Win 3.1 was a piece of garbage inside and out.

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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TL;DW: the exploding hate is due to Windows transitioning into a fully cloud-first OS.

Nobody passionately hates Chromebooks.

I don’t think I have ever spent over $100 on a Chromebook. I can’t imagine putting serious money in one; it’s a toy/disposable computer.

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You can lie when it requests for personal information. I always identify myself as "Conan, The Barbarian" when creating account.

why I should be the one bothering with that though? and what happens when it starts requiring internet connection and biometric age verification?

Are you claiming Linux is becoming always online?

That's one hell of a claim.

Re: The Reason Windows Hate Is Exploding: It's the End of Personal Computing [video]

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Personal Computing was never in a better position. Linux is a joy to use. Self hosting is easy as hell, with an abundance of tools and applications available. You can buy old refurbished machines that are still pretty amazing home servers for cheap. Hell, even AI help with that. It's pretty good at making scripts and detailing step-by-step what you need to to get things running.

Which version because I have been using it and it "functions" but it's not a joy.

I have been on Mint for 4 years and I adore it. But I am a filthy casual, I like my OS to be pleasantly boring. Arch is not for me.

It's a genuine pleasure to use.

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