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Re: GIMP 3.2 released

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Why is then opening a JPEG not an Import? I get it, and when Photoshop changed this default, GIMP followed with changing this workflow. It used to be different in older versions of Photoshop and Gimp. Advanced user usually know exactly what they're doing, and opening a PNG or JPEG file, changing a few pixels, and saving it, should require as few key presses as possible. I don't want the UI to get in my way when I ope…

When opening a jpg, it literally says "importing pic.jpg" when opening a jpg

Exactly. That's my point.

When saving, it simply should say "Exporting pic.jpg".

Re: GIMP 3.2 released

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I see you are getting downvoted but I don't blame you for this question. I've been curious about what developers of established products are doing with LLM assisted coding myself.

Like most of us, they're certainly using ai-assisted auto-complete and chat for thinking deep. I highly doubt they're vibe coding, which is how I interpret the parent's question and probably why they are being down voted.

This is insulting to our craft, like going to a woodworkers convention and assuming "most of [them]" are using 3D-printers and laser cutters.

Half the developers I know still don't use LSP (and they're not necessarily older devs), and even the full-time developers in my circle resist their bosses forcing Copilot or Claude down their throats and use in fact 0 AI. Living in France, i don't know a single developer using AI tools, except for drive-by pull-request submitters i have never met.

I understand the world is nuanced and there are different dynamics at play, and my circles are not statistically representative of the world at large. Likewise, please don't assume this literally world-eating fad (AI) is what "most of us" are doing just because that's all the cool kids talk about.

Re: GIMP 3.2 released

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Almost all programs treat the “Save” operation as something used with the native format, in this case XCF files. These preserve things like layers, etc. JPG and other formats are exports because after you close the file you can’t get all that stuff back when you reopen it.

This is not true with common applications people are familiar with. Excel and Word will happily "save" a PDF, and it behaves like exporting and doesn't change the document being edited.

Word and Excel seems to change behavior on every release. I don't think it's something Gimp should try to chase. Gimp has save: "Save native gimp file" and export "Export an image file". It's a bit confusing to me why people find this confusing.

Re: GIMP 3.2 released

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Like most of us, they're certainly using ai-assisted auto-complete and chat for thinking deep. I highly doubt they're vibe coding, which is how I interpret the parent's question and probably why they are being down voted.

This is insulting to our craft, like going to a woodworkers convention and assuming "most of [them]" are using 3D-printers and laser cutters. Half the developers I know still don't use LSP (and they're not necessarily older devs), and even the full-time developers in my circle resist their bosses forcing Copilot or Claude down their throats and use in fact 0 AI. Living in France, i don't know a single developer using…

Like 99.9999 of woodworkers already cheat by using metal and not wood tools

Re: GIMP 3.2 released

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This is insulting to our craft, like going to a woodworkers convention and assuming "most of [them]" are using 3D-printers and laser cutters. Half the developers I know still don't use LSP (and they're not necessarily older devs), and even the full-time developers in my circle resist their bosses forcing Copilot or Claude down their throats and use in fact 0 AI. Living in France, i don't know a single developer using…

Like 99.9999 of woodworkers already cheat by using metal and not wood tools

I didn't say using different technology was cheating, and metal tools are certainly part of woodworking for thousands of years so that's not really comparable.

It's also very different because there's a qualitative change between metal woodworking tools and a laser cutter. The latter requires electricity and massive investments.

Re: GIMP 3.2 released

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Being able to scale an image without losing quality is going to be handy. I always found it odd that scaling down an image now and then scaling it back to its original size 2 seconds later with the same tool resulted in a loss of quality and having to delete the layer, then re-import the image to get the original quality back. This plugin https://github.com/LinuxBeaver/Gimp_Layer_Effects_Text_Style... also makes addi…

> I always found it odd that scaling down an image now and then scaling it back to its original size 2 seconds later with the same tool resulted in a loss of quality I'm honestly baffled at your surprise... say, if you crop an image, and 2 seconds later you enlarge it to its original size; do you expect to get the inital image back? Or a uniform color padding around your crop? Scaling is just cropping in the frequenc…

From a developer perspective you're obviously correct, but from a user perspective it doesn't make sense that the tool discards information, especially when competing tools don't do that.

Of course as a developer that makes it all the more impressive - kudos to the team for making such big progress, I can't wait to play around with all the new improvements!

Re: GIMP 3.2 released

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I use Gimp pretty sporadically but the latest UI refresh (I’m guessing introduced in 3.0?) completely baffles me. It might just be that it’s better tailored for graphic designers, which I’m clearly not. But now I can’t even figure out how to draw a square on screen. Let along anything clever.

If you want to draw squares, you're probably looking for a vector drawing program, like Inkscape.

Comments like yours miss the point. In fact worse, they just serve to stagnate FOSS because it pushes the assumption that the software is always right and users are idiots, without taking any time to understand what those users are actually trying to do.

There are hundreds of good reasons why someone might want to overlay a vector shape on a bitmap image. The desire to draw shapes on bitmap isn’t something weird that I’ve just invented for HN. It’s been a staple feature such graphics packages since the inception of bitmap graphics editing. And it’s been a staple feature of Gimp since I first switched to Linux in the 90s.

But that’s all moot because I was just making an arbitrary example.

And as an aside, I do use vector drawing software too. So I’m fully aware of their existence.

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