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US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#61
post #7

One of the self-owns of all time. Triggering a global supply chain crisis right before midterms is bottom of the barrel strategy. But then again, who expects competency from any recent American administration, most especially this one?

Depends, I just want to point out that the US is a net exporter of Oil. They also secured oil imports from Venezuela while at the same time in 2 strokes seriously hurt Chinese oil imports. If the goal was to hurt China / BRICS and kneecap Iran it seems on point. It's always hard to predict how the USA will vote when "war" is happening.

Venezuela has reserves. Relative to the gulf it doesn't produce any meaningful amount of oil from those reserves.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#63

These tankers aren't easily replaceable are they? As in it takes significant time to build them. Even if Trump's claims that the war will end shortly were true. Oil prices are guaranteed not coming down if many more of these ships are sunk.

There are a surplus of tankers, that's not the problem.

The problem is they are halted, which causes price spikes.

$120/barrel Oil will screw up the whole world.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#64

These tankers aren't easily replaceable are they? As in it takes significant time to build them. Even if Trump's claims that the war will end shortly were true. Oil prices are guaranteed not coming down if many more of these ships are sunk.

They don't even need that many mines or bombs to start with, presence of wreckage on the shipping lanes that aren't more that 75m deep would already put all shipping at risk.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#65
post #7

One of the self-owns of all time. Triggering a global supply chain crisis right before midterms is bottom of the barrel strategy. But then again, who expects competency from any recent American administration, most especially this one?

Depends, I just want to point out that the US is a net exporter of Oil. They also secured oil imports from Venezuela while at the same time in 2 strokes seriously hurt Chinese oil imports. If the goal was to hurt China / BRICS and kneecap Iran it seems on point. It's always hard to predict how the USA will vote when "war" is happening.

Oil markets are global, you cannot hike prices for China while enjoying cheap oil yourself.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#67
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That piece of technological advance has gone mostly under the radar (!) so far The Ukraine would like to have a word.

The drones that are mainly used there are the flying kind.

"Mainly" but they've been assaulting Russian boats and ships with USVs and submersibles.

For example - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Baby#Sub_Sea_Baby

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#68
post #13

Only more reason to finally get rid of the current Iranian regime and any and all of their military capabilities.

Does this mean that Greece will join the US/Israeli side in this increasingly global conflict?

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#69
post #11

Why did we have to go through all this pain. Was that really necessary? And given we mostly talk about technology here, let me put this through that lens: With all the technology advancement and improvement with access to information in the last 30 years, why does it feel that all of this culminates to more disinformation, more pain, and less understanding?

This is a tale as old as humanity itself. Power-hungry people will always push lies to foster their version of events. This always causes pain and destruction.

I am not delusional about those power-hungry people, but I somehow thought that with better access to information, society would have been able to better regulate them.

Maybe in hindsight, "flooding the zone" will be considered a much bigger threat than it is today. Most of what's going on in the last 12 months have happened in plain sight and would have never worked 30 years ago. Today, it just flies, attention span be damned.

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