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Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The school was a seperate building so targeting or weapon precision was pretty sloppy. The shift toward war crime whataboutism is a new low for HN, capping off a week of aggressive warmongering and intellectualized cruelty in every comment thread about Iran.

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Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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I'm really curious to understand why this was done and why it was necessary. I cannot imagine the AI was used to identify targets without any base information. ie, I imagine the military already had a list of targets and locations. How would the AI know from satellite imagery that something was a military target. If that's the case, why did they need help selecting targets? I can only imagine that the military bases…

I am guessing this is the case where a pre created narrative ("Killing AI bots") is force fitted into a more nuanced instance of reality. These are probably analysts that use Claude that has an MCP server to some palantir half-assed intelligence product. This is then pushed by non-technical journalists as some doomsday immoral non-human killing machine.

This is similar to the story behind Cambridge Analytica, which was essentially a company using crapware facebook API software to harvest voters data, but the media version of it was "tech companies can change election results" which echoed a season plotline of House of Cards (and older narratives of shadow forces)

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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So will there be droves of people canceling their Claude subscription too? None of these companies are clean and I think it’s hilarious HN and the rest of SV has been duped by Dario. He’s playing the game better than Sam is, imo. Nothing Dario has said has indicated he is regretful about their partnership with Palantir or any of the stuff they’ve done with the DoD in the past 2.5 years. Edit: this Washington Post art…

> None of these companies are clean and I think it’s hilarious HN and the rest of SV has been duped by Dario.

Exactly. Anthropic is to the rest of the AI companies as capital-loyal Democrats are to capital-loyal Republicans of the uniparty.

The choices we are given are merely an illusion. The notion of "lesser of 2 etc evils" is fundamentally flawed.

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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post #3

1k targets and a few hundred school girls.

You're being downvoted, but if Anthropic is going to deploy Claude for decision making in target prosecution it is clearly a "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion" moment. Association with is guilt unless proven otherwise.

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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This is the AI we're using to kill people now, surely it won't make any mistakes or confidently target civilians on accident: https://youtube.com/shorts/WxbHtYzBnvo?si=xh4kda_DuNvHFx0L

They literally bombed a school full of girls.

It's irrelevant whether AI "makes any mistakes" or not, there are no morals either way, and people just seem to be desensitised to all of this

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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post #17

How are they ensuring 0 hallucinations?

What makes you think they have ensured anything? Apart from anything else, Anthropic don't want to be used for this.

> Apart from anything else, Anthropic don't want to be used for this

what did they think a Palantir contract would be for?

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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I'm really curious to understand why this was done and why it was necessary. I cannot imagine the AI was used to identify targets without any base information. ie, I imagine the military already had a list of targets and locations. How would the AI know from satellite imagery that something was a military target. If that's the case, why did they need help selecting targets? I can only imagine that the military bases…

Throw Claude - or any other very good LLM - a bunch of data and it'll give results in seconds/minutes. Very similar to how sometimes when I run into a stubborn bug, I use a tracer to capture everything that's happening. Before, it'd take me sometimes hours and several scans before I find the issue, and maybe a bit more time to fix it depending on the severity. Now I just throw that full trace at Claude, and so far, 100% of the time it finds and resolves the issue in a few seconds. If the problem/question can be fixed/answered by what's in the given data, I've found Claude to be very good at finding it. And if you haven't given it the data, it's also very good at hypothesizing and telling you where+how to get relevant data so it can prove its hypothesis.

Not much different from giving it a bunch of satellite, traffic, etc data of a target and asking it to find areas to prioritize based on movement of particular personnel/equipment, etc.

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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AI target-selection systems have become a loophole that removes the link between the decision-maker (who should bear responsibility within the military bureaucracy) and the actual action taken. Israel became the implementer of this model in Gaza (Palantir was most likely part of this system as well).

Let us recall what former Israeli Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi reportedly conveyed about a meeting with Netanyahu. The IDF said they had struck 1,400 targets, yet Netanyahu reportedly slammed the table and angrily asked why it wasn’t 5,000, and said “bomb everywhere and destroy the houses.”

For the military bureaucracy, the fact that AI can speculate or generate potential targets (which is entirely possible with LLM systems) becomes a convenient mechanism that, at least on paper, allows them to distance themselves from responsibility.

Now let’s look at the statements made by Anthropic and Hegseth:

https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-stand-department-war

https://x.com/SecWar/status/2027507717469049070

From Anthropic’s own statement, we hear that they have actually been quite closely partnered. In Hegseth’s tweet we see:

“Anthropic will continue to provide the Department of War its services for a period of no more than six months to allow for a seamless transition to a better and more patriotic service.”

This shows that Anthropic is still currently being actively used by the Department of War.

My view is that Anthropic and its investors eventually realized that the American war machine will use their technology in reckless ways, and that this will certainly create a massive PR disaster or, in an ideal world, even legal consequences. That realization likely pushed them to adopt what they now frame as a more “humanitarian” position. We have already seen incidents where roughly 180 children were killed due to faulty targeting, assuming and hoping it was not intentional.

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