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Re: New imagery suggests U.S. responsible for Iran school strike

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Post by mrguyorama »

_alternator_ wrote: post #21
surgical_fire wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds too convoluted, and implies that those in power in the countries attacking Iran have a grand plan that goes beyond killing people in Iran. The explanation is simpler. They want death, so they are bombing shit indiscriminately Hitting a school was not a mistake, it was the point.

I think a tragic mistake like this was foreseeable (in a vague sense), but I highly doubt that anyone intentionally bombed an elementary school full of children. The NYT had some good reporting on this, and you can see how the mistake was made. The elementary school used to be part of the IRGC base until 2016. Then it was fenced off and made an elementary school. The “shooter” (in this case, the USA) had a duty to ch…

>but I highly doubt that anyone intentionally bombed an elementary school full of children

Hegseth said to your face "No stupid rules of engagement", "This is not a politically correct war"

These are the people who have been purposely and loudly defending Israel bombing innocent people. They genuinely believe, as they say to your face, that it is important and necessary to be brutal and extreme to win war.

Intentionally disregarding rules of engagement and protecting innocent life IS intentionally bombing that school. Civilian casualties are a reality of war and the best you can do is work your ass off to reduce them, so openly advocating for NOT doing that is intentionally killing people.

Re: New imagery suggests U.S. responsible for Iran school strike

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Post by vunderba »

lukan wrote: post #59
fbelzile wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reporting from the CBC mentioned that the school was located within an area surrounded by other military buildings. The building housing the school was used for military purposes in the past. I think it's more likely that the US was going off of outdated intelligence.

Here is a bit more info: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab... "It can be said with a degree of confidence that, in 2013, the site was used exclusively as a military barracks with a strict security character, as there was no indication of an independent civilian use of any part of the complex. But this changed radically in 2016. Satellite images dated September 6, 2016 capture the main turni…

When I saw that interview I immediately thought, people like Hegseth are why treaties like the Geneva Convention were created in the first place.

Re: New imagery suggests U.S. responsible for Iran school strike

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Post by mechanicalpulse »

plaidfuji wrote: post #42
mechanicalpulse wrote: post #19

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This story is now being carried by WSJ.. the likelihood that it’s real only seems to grow each day. If true, this will be the humanitarian price the war is measured against, assuming the casualties don’t grow further.

I can’t argue with you there. The Pentagon’s silence is deafening; I only want to caution myself as much as anyone against jumping to conclusions. It may be AI, it may be bad intelligence, it may be Russian counterintelligence, it may be an IRGC false flag, it may be a little bit of all of the above.

Re: New imagery suggests U.S. responsible for Iran school strike

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Post by tchalla »

plaidfuji wrote: post #47

If this turns out to be true, which seems increasingly likely day by day, this will be the humanitarian price against which the rest of the campaign will be measured. The US will have ceded much of the moral high ground they claimed in avenging the slaughter of innocent protesters.

> The US will have ceded much of the moral high ground they claimed in avenging the slaughter of innocent protesters.

It will be forgotten soon.

Re: New imagery suggests U.S. responsible for Iran school strike

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Post by SauntSolaire »

surgical_fire wrote: post #48
kgwgk wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It really doesn't matter whether it was a mistake It does matter if people go around saying that “they want death, so they are bombing shit indiscriminately.”

> “they want death, so they are bombing shit indiscriminately.” It's still the most probable explanation

Disagree, negligence seems more likely

Re: New imagery suggests U.S. responsible for Iran school strike

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Post by readthenotes1 »

waffleiron wrote: post #6
readthenotes1 wrote: post #3

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I'm not clear how it is tech related. There are plenty of other ways to get general news, hacker News is not your all-purpose News feed...

China and geopolitical enemies of the US doing horrible things regularly gets hundreds of votes. It’s quite clear that this argument is mainly used to defend the US and it’s allies. Just a single example of Russia, hundreds of votes and more than a thousand comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30458277 Edit; just search for Russia, China or Iran on https://hn.algolia.com/ and you’ll find plenty of non tech…

Whataboutism has no place in polite discussion: two, or more, wrongs don't make a right.

Re: New imagery suggests U.S. responsible for Iran school strike

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Post by mothballed »

tchalla wrote: post #64
plaidfuji wrote: post #47

If this turns out to be true, which seems increasingly likely day by day, this will be the humanitarian price against which the rest of the campaign will be measured. The US will have ceded much of the moral high ground they claimed in avenging the slaughter of innocent protesters.

> The US will have ceded much of the moral high ground they claimed in avenging the slaughter of innocent protesters. It will be forgotten soon.

I hope you're right, and one day we don't read 20 or 30 years from now the biography of a terrorist, and it starts out with their experience being the sibling of a child injured at one of these schools.

Re: New imagery suggests U.S. responsible for Iran school strike

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Post by colonCapitalDee »

ryandrake wrote: post #27
_alternator_ wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a tragic mistake like this was foreseeable (in a vague sense), but I highly doubt that anyone intentionally bombed an elementary school full of children. The NYT had some good reporting on this, and you can see how the mistake was made. The elementary school used to be part of the IRGC base until 2016. Then it was fenced off and made an elementary school. The “shooter” (in this case, the USA) had a duty to ch…

It really doesn't matter whether it was a mistake or how the mistake was made. If it were your kid's elementary school that got blown up, would you say "Oh, well, it wasn't intentional. The bad guys just had outdated intelligence. These things happen."

You're intentionally missing the point. Every time a bomb drops we're rolling the dice. Hits on civilian targets are inevitable, just like bugs are inevitable. The only solution is not to go to war at all. Don't blame the person who dropped the bomb, blame the people who ordered the bombs to be dropped.

Re: New imagery suggests U.S. responsible for Iran school strike

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Post by xrd »

kgwgk wrote: post #43
ryandrake wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really doesn't matter whether it was a mistake or how the mistake was made. If it were your kid's elementary school that got blown up, would you say "Oh, well, it wasn't intentional. The bad guys just had outdated intelligence. These things happen."

> It really doesn't matter whether it was a mistake It does matter if people go around saying that “they want death, so they are bombing shit indiscriminately.”

I'm not sure how "they want war, so they are bombing negligently" is any different. Or morally better.

Re: New imagery suggests U.S. responsible for Iran school strike

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Post by surgical_fire »

SauntSolaire wrote: post #65
surgical_fire wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “they want death, so they are bombing shit indiscriminately.” It's still the most probable explanation

Disagree, negligence seems more likely

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/hegseth-insists-the-iran-...

"No stupid rules of engagement, no nation building quagmire, no democracy building exercise, no politically correct wars. We fight to win, and we don't waste time or lives," Hegseth said.

Words of your Secretary of War, not mine.

This is not a woke war. This is a war where you bomb schools and kill children.

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