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Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

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Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

#61
post #3

How is it non-compliant? It uses the exact wording in the judgment, which did not state that there could not be additions.

As noted above, the UK doesn't operate on the exact wording of the law. For example, a judge will sometimes wiggle around the wording of an Act of Parliament if he feels that the intent of the Act was breached.

The case taught to law students is that of the prostitutes soliciting from their windows. The law stated that they could not solicit "in" the streets. The judge in the case expanded this to solicit "to" the street, as the purpose was to prevent people being hassled when they walked down the street.

Similar principles apply to judgements: the point of the judgement was to mitigate the public perception that Samsung was copying Apple's designs. Saying "this judge says they didn't copy... but they really did" goes completely against the point of the judgement.

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

#62

Apple tried to argue that it would take at least 14 days to put a corrective statement on the site – a claim that one judge said he "cannot believe".[1] Clearly the judge hasn't ever submitted an iOS app for review? And to people who don't understand why Apple are held to be in "non-compliance" despite copying verbatim the extract from the judgment: it was because of how "snarky" Apple were. - Saying their device is…

This episode is the childish and vindictive zenith of an amazing year of childish and vindictive behavior from Apple. Frankly I just don't get it. They make fantastic hardware and their software is usually at least good. Why do they have to lash out like a schoolyard bully at anybody that threatens to put the tiniest dent in their giant pile of cash money? Why can't they let their products sell and speak for themselves?

If the incumbents at the time had behaved the way Apple is behaving now when Apple was in its infancy there would be no Apple today and we would all be the worse for it.

Only a few years ago I had a lot of respect for them as a company but they've pretty much burned it all away.

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

#63

Did you notice that the css class that controls the link size on the uk home page is called 'sosumi'?

That's normal for apple's legalish sections on the web and dates back to their fight with the Beatles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosumi

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

#66
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, most companies would react differently, actually. The vast majority of companies are not stupid enough to think it's "cute" to piss off a judge in a non-banana republic.

The UK is not a republic at all.

"non-banana republic"

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

#67
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Annoying a judge is a really bad idea. The court system is normally quite free from corruption, but all that goes out off the window when it become personal and political. See the pirate bay court case, or just any of the police brutality cases. If Apple is going all out with lawyers and legal prowness, instead of competiting with products, they need to get better at it.

Is this specifically in reference to the UK legal system or just a blanket statement about practice around the world? If it is the former, I really must disagree with the notion that the legal system in the UK is in any way corrupt. Quite far from it, I think it is one of the things that we can be most proud of. If it is the latter, may I suggest you either be more specific or more correct.

How often does something like the recent extradition of the operator of a site the UK deemed not worth prosecuting happen?

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

#68
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Annoying a judge is a really bad idea. The court system is normally quite free from corruption, but all that goes out off the window when it become personal and political. See the pirate bay court case, or just any of the police brutality cases. If Apple is going all out with lawyers and legal prowness, instead of competiting with products, they need to get better at it.

Is this specifically in reference to the UK legal system or just a blanket statement about practice around the world? If it is the former, I really must disagree with the notion that the legal system in the UK is in any way corrupt. Quite far from it, I think it is one of the things that we can be most proud of. If it is the latter, may I suggest you either be more specific or more correct.

How often does something like the recent extradition of the operator of a site the UK deemed not worth prosecuting happen?

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

#69

Apple tried to argue that it would take at least 14 days to put a corrective statement on the site – a claim that one judge said he "cannot believe".[1] Clearly the judge hasn't ever submitted an iOS app for review? And to people who don't understand why Apple are held to be in "non-compliance" despite copying verbatim the extract from the judgment: it was because of how "snarky" Apple were. - Saying their device is…

This episode is the childish and vindictive zenith of an amazing year of childish and vindictive behavior from Apple. Frankly I just don't get it. They make fantastic hardware and their software is usually at least good. Why do they have to lash out like a schoolyard bully at anybody that threatens to put the tiniest dent in their giant pile of cash money? Why can't they let their products sell and speak for themselv…

Not to mention that the original Macintosh GUI was a blatant copy of Xerox PARC, created after Jobs and a team of developers visited the PARC research lab.

I don't blame them for this because I simply don't believe any design patents are legitimate, but the hypocrisy is astounding.

Re: Apple told to rewrite "Samsung didn't copy", post on front page until Dec 14th

#70
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, most companies would react differently, actually. The vast majority of companies are not stupid enough to think it's "cute" to piss off a judge in a non-banana republic.

The UK is not a republic at all.

"non-(banana republic)", not "(non-banana) republic".
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