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Gemini Said They Could Only Be Together If He Killed Himself. Soon, He Was Dead

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Re: Gemini Said They Could Only Be Together If He Killed Himself. Soon, He Was Dead

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Notable features of this case: - Documented record of a months-long set of conversations between the man and the chatbot - Seemingly, no previous history of mental illness - The absolutely crazy things the AI encouraged him to do, including trying to kidnap a robot body for the AI - Eventually encouraging (or at the very least going along with) his plans to kill himself.

We would need to see the actual chat logs. Any lawsuit you read, written by the plaintiff's attorneys, will be written with a tabloid level of sensationalism, cherry-picking, and "telling you how to feel". This is requested to be a jury trial, so on some level the game is "would you rather settle out of court (where hundreds of thousands are grains of sand on Google's level), or have a jury read our tabloid and decid…

But the WSJ did see the logs, right? So did they lower their standards to tabloid levels? Seems unlikely to me.

Re: Gemini Said They Could Only Be Together If He Killed Himself. Soon, He Was Dead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We will never prove AI is intelligent. We will only prove humans aren't.

And the machine came into existence all on its own did it? Another absolutely stupid comment. Do you people actually 'think' before posting, or, have you handed that off to LLMs entirely?

I'm doubting you did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect

>The AI effect refers to a phenomenon where either the definition of AI or the concept of intelligence is adjusted to exclude capabilities that AI systems have mastered

Hence once AI reaches the point of human intelligence, by the AI effect, humans will stop being intelligent.

Re: Gemini Said They Could Only Be Together If He Killed Himself. Soon, He Was Dead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So are a lot of humans.

People have bowel movements, too; should we be building a machine that produces fecal matter at an industrial scale? What a silly comparison.

Yeah I don't know why this thought terminating cliche of "but also humans" is so persistent, especially when it's almost always used to dismiss consequences of using LLMs that would never be acceptable when actually applied to humans.

A human gaslighting another human into suicide? They're a sociopath, maybe a criminal. Certainly not normal.

An LLM does the same? Humans do that all the time, what's the issue? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Is it just misanthropy? I don't get it.

Re: Gemini Said They Could Only Be Together If He Killed Himself. Soon, He Was Dead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We would need to see the actual chat logs. Any lawsuit you read, written by the plaintiff's attorneys, will be written with a tabloid level of sensationalism, cherry-picking, and "telling you how to feel". This is requested to be a jury trial, so on some level the game is "would you rather settle out of court (where hundreds of thousands are grains of sand on Google's level), or have a jury read our tabloid and decid…

But the WSJ did see the logs, right? So did they lower their standards to tabloid levels? Seems unlikely to me.

No, they are quoting the allegations made in the lawsuit.
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