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Re: Glaze by Raycast

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Post by thewebguyd »

pelagicAustral wrote: post #55
twalichiewicz wrote: post #14

It's certainly a nice promotional website. My first thought was, "So, Replit and ilk?", seems they expected that comparison: > How is Glaze different from Lovable, Replit, or v0? > Those tools build for the browser. Glaze builds for your desktop. That means your apps can access your file system, your camera, keyboard shortcuts, menu bar integration, and background processes. Things a web app can’t do. It’s a differen…

I took a few shots at building desktop apps with Tauri, Wails and Electron using Claude Code, and the results were not very good at all. In fact, they were by far the worst results I've gotten with the tool. I can easily clone one of my boilerplate repos in Rails, or Django and prompt away, and the results are consistently good, as in, functional MVP in a few hours. This was never the case for the desktop tools I men…

> I don't think we are anywhere near a tool like this for native, but that's a lost battle anyway.

I hope it's not a lost battle, tbh. I was hoping with AI & Vibe Coding we'd see sort of a resurgence of native first desktop apps, but so far it's just all been a continuation of the web app & web tech hegemony.

Maybe not for Windows as their native GUI story is a lost cause now, but for sure macOS and I had hopes of it leading to a renaissance of desktop linux apps in GTK instead of electron, but that (the Linux) community seems to be hostile to any AI generated code at all for now.

Re: Glaze by Raycast

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Post by elxr »

_pdp_ wrote: post #40

How many apps do you really need that are not already done - perhaps even better?

I can think of at least 1 major improvement to so many of the apps I use day to day.

Desktop software is nowhere near good enough to consider random usecases "already done". Not that glaze looks particularly special, but there's so many improvements the desktop experience begs for.

An easy to use cross-platform GUI builder for one. Even something as basic as a calendar app doesn't have a clear obvious winner today.

Re: Glaze by Raycast

#64

Post by mcintyre1994 »

pelagicAustral wrote: post #55
twalichiewicz wrote: post #14

It's certainly a nice promotional website. My first thought was, "So, Replit and ilk?", seems they expected that comparison: > How is Glaze different from Lovable, Replit, or v0? > Those tools build for the browser. Glaze builds for your desktop. That means your apps can access your file system, your camera, keyboard shortcuts, menu bar integration, and background processes. Things a web app can’t do. It’s a differen…

I took a few shots at building desktop apps with Tauri, Wails and Electron using Claude Code, and the results were not very good at all. In fact, they were by far the worst results I've gotten with the tool. I can easily clone one of my boilerplate repos in Rails, or Django and prompt away, and the results are consistently good, as in, functional MVP in a few hours. This was never the case for the desktop tools I men…

They say they're targeting Mac only for now, so it could be native code, or they could just have not tested/refined their prompt for other platforms yet.

> This was never the case for the desktop tools I mentioned.

I'd be curious how well Claude Code works for a native Swift app on macOS, if that's the platform you're on. I've found it extremely good at iOS apps so my guess is it would be equally good at building a native macOS app with the same stack.

Re: Glaze by Raycast

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Post by pelagicAustral »

thewebguyd wrote: post #61
pelagicAustral wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I took a few shots at building desktop apps with Tauri, Wails and Electron using Claude Code, and the results were not very good at all. In fact, they were by far the worst results I've gotten with the tool. I can easily clone one of my boilerplate repos in Rails, or Django and prompt away, and the results are consistently good, as in, functional MVP in a few hours. This was never the case for the desktop tools I men…

> I don't think we are anywhere near a tool like this for native, but that's a lost battle anyway. I hope it's not a lost battle, tbh. I was hoping with AI & Vibe Coding we'd see sort of a resurgence of native first desktop apps, but so far it's just all been a continuation of the web app & web tech hegemony. Maybe not for Windows as their native GUI story is a lost cause now, but for sure macOS and I had hopes of it…

Well, to be fair, I do have an experience working on a Windows Forms app from scratch. App connects to a very specific scanner via customs drivers and makes use of a remote API for data tasks. The app works, it's stable, but I'm not going to lie, AI assisted coding for this particular stack does require a very large amount of nurturing, it is just not the same experience you get with web apps. Nevertheless, it did it.

Re: Glaze by Raycast

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

twalichiewicz wrote: post #14

It's certainly a nice promotional website. My first thought was, "So, Replit and ilk?", seems they expected that comparison: > How is Glaze different from Lovable, Replit, or v0? > Those tools build for the browser. Glaze builds for your desktop. That means your apps can access your file system, your camera, keyboard shortcuts, menu bar integration, and background processes. Things a web app can’t do. It’s a differen…

> If anything they do background processes better since you can send a very long task off to a server and shut off your computer, come back later and pick up where you left off.

I think it's fair to say that's a benefit of web apps over native apps in many cases. But for the kind of business app use case they're talking about, it's also a tradeoff. I can imagine a lot of business apps where you don't want to send the data to the server of a Replit etc. and doing all the processing local is a benefit.

Re: Glaze by Raycast

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

prodigycorp wrote: post #13

Someone please exfiltrate their prompts/skills so i can use these on Codex. I've have relative success building my own apps for mac using Codex but they're uglier than sin and dont seem to understand well how permissions work. Having antigravity is useful because Gemini 3.1 is pretty good at generating UI sugar. Claude 4.6 Opus provides nothing to write home about. Their shadcn looksmaxxing hasn't generalized to writ…

A similar product in the mobile space is Rork - I haven't used it but I've seen it on twitter a bit. I definitely wouldn't be surprised to see Apple acquire one of them.

Re: Glaze by Raycast

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Post by apt-apt-apt-apt »

ultropolis wrote: post #49
sporksmith wrote: post #27

I thought this must be a joke at first. "Glaze" is in pretty heavy use as recent slang for "when someone excessively praises another person in a way that feels over-the-top." https://creativesimiles.com/glaze-meaning-slang/ ie the annoying way that LLMs interact with users

It's so much worse. Your link fails to mention that the "Glaze" in question is a cough bodily fluid. Yes that one. Have I seen politicians use "glaze" recently? Yes. Gross. On the other hand it is kind of the perfect name for Yet Another AI Website Maker (YAAWM?).

It's worse than that, the glaze is only the by-product of the primary action in question.

Re: Glaze by Raycast

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Post by adamtaylor_13 »

jFriedensreich wrote: post #43

Just what absolutely no one needed: another locked down and non web platform with horrific security that tries to digitally enslave people just the tiniest level above what they can accept now. I don’t see any future where raycast can survive and i would say its a good thing.

I understand some of the skepticism towards this product, but are you saying this will somehow negatively impact Raycast (the company)? Raycast the tool is incredibly useful, so I'm surprised to see this sentiment.

Re: Glaze by Raycast

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Post by jsheard »

sporksmith wrote: post #27

I thought this must be a joke at first. "Glaze" is in pretty heavy use as recent slang for "when someone excessively praises another person in a way that feels over-the-top." https://creativesimiles.com/glaze-meaning-slang/ ie the annoying way that LLMs interact with users

> https://creativesimiles.com/glaze-meaning-slang/

Kids these days are always saying "snaoƨd" and "foʀaṅr"

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