Before installing new software, I usually visit its GitHub page or Wikipedia entry first and click through to the official site from there. I just don't trust the 'official' sites that pop up in Google search results. How many of you do the same?
I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
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Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#62> This isn't an SEO problem. This is a Google problem. Sorry, but this is a SEO problem. The fake site has probably been linked to by a number of high-SEO outlets. What you should do is contact them and tell them to fix the links (to point to your site), which they should be happy to do.
If SEO works, that's a Google problem.
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#63It’s worse. I wrote about this a couple weeks ago [1]. With AI responses and Google pulling results from different sources, you could potentially hijack other brands with your own fake content (ie: phone number).
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#64Another comment here but here are all the search engines I looked at: 1. DDG 2. Kagi 3. Brave 4. Ecosia 5. Startpage 6. Marginalia 7. Mojeek 8. Yandex.ru from 1-5 all referenced .net before .dev and DDG referenced .net before github , marinalia didn't give me either .net, .dev or gh link but rather docker.com or some other tech articles Mojeek and Yandex.ru DID give me .dev links before .net at the time of writing. I…
I think you put more effort into this comment than the entire OP, which was clearly written by Claude.
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
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It took me a long time to realise that people value things by how much they pay for them, not by how much they cost to produce. It doesn't matter if that's software, a pair of trousers or a meal at a restaurant. This extends into the world of work as well. Employers that don't pay well tend to treat their employees poorly.
I am part of Lowendtalk community where hosting providers sometimes gives deals even better than hetzner/ovh etc. who are even impacted even more by the ram crisis but they are trying their best imo to not have prices be risen across the board. Sort of eating the 5x costs of ram.
The entitlement is truly real at times. I think that sometimes I can be part of that entitlement too but I think I try to be respectful usually and say my concerns if I have any.
This sort of becomes a circular because VPS at the very least do indicate support and good quality/atleast decent quality hardware. A server too cheap and too overprovisioned with steal factor (Like Contabo) is universally hated by people. But these are the same people who will take deals if they are the cheapest across the board (myself included at times, I have got an idle netcup vps for a few months for 10$ simply out of curiosity but I do think that's 10$ worth spent to get the idea of a public facing ipv4 but yea)
So a lot of summer hosts/ deadpools (Scam-type) take on this opportunity and what they do is rent hardware for a month or year from other providers with large specs and split it into small chunks and give yearly, triannually, lifetime deals which can be too good to be true.
Turns out that they are, as usually sme sort of scam type stuff happens after a year or two or three.
This also makes it hard for new providers to try to prove their worth at times too if they are legit all within a market which is very price competitive.
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#66> This isn't an SEO problem. This is a Google problem.
I've tested on a few of the big search engines, and nanoclaw.dev is never in the first page.
Gemini was also unable to find the .dev, even in "Research Mode." The only way I was able to get a direct link to nanoclaw.dev was with chatgpt, which found it by scraping the GitHub (it also spat out links to a couple of other copies it found from google.)
Seems this is a wider SEO issue, one which infiltrates even the technology supposed to replace it.
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#67Before installing new software, I usually visit its GitHub page or Wikipedia entry first and click through to the official site from there. I just don't trust the 'official' sites that pop up in Google search results. How many of you do the same?
Don't forget the SourceForge rug pull, when the once definitive central source of truth was bought out and became a venue for malware
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#68Duckduckgo actually shows nanoclaw.net as the first result and the github page as second. Another point but DDG's AI feature actually references Nanoclaw.net as a source. Damn I booted up Orion (Kagi) and even Kagi shows nanoclaw.net as the third result after the github page with qwibitai and another github page with your (previous?) github username ie gavrielc which when clicked on also results to the same github pa…
We can fix this quickly at DuckDuckGo, and we will for organics. I suspect part of the problem is I am seeing a TLS issue with the nanoclaw.dev site.
Awesome! I am a big fan of DDG. I am happy I could help you guys. Another minor tidbit but please also remove DDG AI summary about nanoclaw referencing the .net if you do take some action about it.
I have also written a more detailed comparison comparing all search providers that I could find, perhaps it might be of interest to ya but only Mojeek/(yandex.ru with the nanoclaw.dev/ru) were able to reference it earlier than .net
I have been an happy user of DDG for many time. I trust DDG significantly more than Google and I am happy that you guys could read such feedback!
Have a nice day DDG team!
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#69Oof, this is exactly the nightmare scenario for “repo-first” OSS.
The weird bit isn’t that a scraper site exists, it’s that Google can’t do the obvious graph join: query == project name, #1 result is the repo, repo declares Homepage = X, yet Google still boosts an imposter domain. That’s not “SEO”, that’s the ranking system refusing to treat maintainer-declared canonical as a strong signal. Early domain squatters get to “set the default” purely by being first, then they can flip the content later once trust is baked in.
People keep saying “tell users to bookmark the real URL” like that scales. Most people will click the second link and assume it’s official. If Google can’t solve this class of problem, their “AI answers” are going to be a bigger mess than blue links ever were.
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
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Food stamps?? This is a ghoulish position, morally, financially, and as a matter of policy. We live in the richest country on planet earth and we eliminated child hunger here during COVID only to roll it back . It's not even 1.5% of the budget currently. Compare this to our military adventurism budget. Every $1 invested in SNAP generates $1.80 in economic activity , right now. Children need food to grow up and be 'pr…
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