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Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by nephihaha »

afavour wrote: post #59
nephihaha wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clare Grogan is definitely who I think of. I couldn't really see Chloe Annette being Kochanski, she was miscast and I don't think she got good scripts.

I just don’t think it makes sense having Kochanski as a regular character. Lister’s yearning for a (largely imagined) version of her works so much better.

I agree with you. Kochanski was meant to be a fun loving girl who ended up working on a mining ship and made the best of it, not a stuck up snob who liked to crack bad jokes about the second city of Vietnam. If Kochanski had been the genius that Chloe Annette played then she probably would have found work elsewhere. They did fix CA's version of the character a bit later on.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by nephihaha »

hermitcrab wrote: post #20

Kryton is one of the greatest characters to ever grace a tv screen.

It terrifies me sometimes that I can see aspects of both Lister and Rimmer in myself despite them being polar opposites.

I don't relate to Cat as much, although his character is great too.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by FireBeyond »

ColinEberhardt wrote: post #42
kinlan wrote: post #39

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I still spend time in Bangor

One drunken night in the company of Norman Lovett was enough for me :-)

Speaking of which I remember Chris Barrie (who played Rimmer) lamenting some of the filming of Red Dwarf and how he struggled to and gave up on hanging out with Craig Charles (Lister) and Danny John-Jules (Cat) because he'd be tired and ready for bed and they'd just be getting started. And then they'd show up sometimes straight from the clubs to shooting the next morning, or sometimes drunk still, or hungover.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by FireBeyond »

teamonkey wrote: post #51
nullhole wrote: post #12

RIP, thanks for the memories. No sci fi effect has ever given me the same sense of wonder that I got from the shot of the camera slowly travelling over the gigantic ship in the Season 1/2 intro. Btw: @dang : Grant was the co-creator, alongside Doug Naylor, who is still kicking

The practical effects in the early seasons were truly fantastic. It was never quite the same after they switched to cgi.

Oh yes. I remember them talking about the script and how low budget everything was. Like even the script was written to try to convince BBC it wouldn't cost much money. I think (paraphrasing) things like:

"We open on the corridor of a space ship. Space Odyssey this is not, no high tech serenity here. No, the is very much an ordinary, boring corridor. It could even have been a corridor in a TV studio..."

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Post by FireBeyond »

mrwh wrote: post #47
nephihaha wrote: post #35

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For a brief period there it was fashionable to have fish nibbling at your feet (in the 2010s?). Not goldfish shoals although that is probably what Lister wanted to farm in Fiji.

If Fiji was under water by then, wasn't his plan to give the sheep snorkels? There's a hazy memory from 30 years ago.

"Right you arr, Farmer Lister!"

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Post by FireBeyond »

lproven wrote: post #48
itsoggy wrote: post #43

Stoke me a Clipper... I'll be back for Christmas!

Er. I may be missing something here, but isn't it smoke me a kipper ?

You are. It's Arnold's first attempt at being/becoming Ace. He stumbles over the phrase, and the "old" Ace tells him he was once like him too, and "there's an Ace inside you, too" (Lister/Cat, I can't remember which: "Yeah, so deep he's been buried..." or something to that effect).

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Post by thebruce87m »

FireBeyond wrote: post #63
ColinEberhardt wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One drunken night in the company of Norman Lovett was enough for me :-)

Speaking of which I remember Chris Barrie (who played Rimmer) lamenting some of the filming of Red Dwarf and how he struggled to and gave up on hanging out with Craig Charles (Lister) and Danny John-Jules (Cat) because he'd be tired and ready for bed and they'd just be getting started. And then they'd show up sometimes straight from the clubs to shooting the next morning, or sometimes drunk still, or hungover.

That was probably fine for portraying Listers character to be fair.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by thebruce87m »

zabzonk wrote: post #10
mrwh wrote: post #3

It's cold outside There's no kind of atmosphere I'm all alone More or less Let me fly Far away from here Fun fun fun In the sun sun sun I want to lie Shipwrecked and comatose Drinking fresh Mango juice Goldfish shoals Nibbling at my toes Fun fun fun In the sun sun sun Fun fun fun In the sun sun sun

One of my favourite happy happy songs. > Shipwrecked and comatose is how I have often felt.

That would look good on a headstone.

Re: Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

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Post by chris222 »

KineticLensman wrote: post #46
nephihaha wrote: post #32

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I watched the whole lot thanks to lockdown. I used to like up until series six or so, but had a look at the later ones. Yes, the actors certainly all look more "lived in" nowadays. The later series/seasons are very uneven, which surprised me. I stopped watching originally around when Chloe Annette's Kochanski was introduced but I was surprised that instead of a steady decline that the quality was very up and down.

Yes. Kryten had definitely been at the pies

Robert has a whole set of youtube channels on electric vehicles and other renewable technology. It’s quite impressive what he does now but I always see Kryten in him, strange.

https://youtu.be/TUi03zA4DAM?si=F55U2fbHjGcksHaK

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