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New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#63
I used to love using em-dashes in my texts, especially in titles. Now I am way too afraid of appearing as using an LLM while I do my best to redact everything by myself :')

Bye bye em-dash, we had a nice run together.

I might start using that⸻one (a bit long...)

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#64

I had no idea what I was using were called “EM-dashes” until the AI bubble. I just used them to reflect pauses in my speech for tangents - an old habit from my IRC days. Incidentally, some folks reported my stuff for potential AI generation and I had to respond to the mods about it. So that was kinda funny, if also sad to hear that some folks thought I was a bot. I’m a dinosaur, not a robot dinosaur. I’m nowhere near…

> I just used them to reflect pauses in my speech for tangents - and old habit from my IRC days.

The tell here is that you used a hyphen, not an em-dash.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#65
post #5

I’ve had this sense that HN has gotten absolutely innundated with bots last few months. Is it possible to differentiate between a bot, and a human using AI to 'improve' the quality of their comment where some of the content might be AI written but not all? I don't think it is.

I don't personally care about the distinction especially since AI usually 'improves' things by making it more verbose. Don't waste tokens to force me to read more useless words about your position - just state it plainly.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#66
post #23

As a typography nerd, I’m upset that my pedantism may get me labelled as a bot. (Yes, I just used a typographic apostrophe instead of a straight single quote.)

Yeah, same. I use an extended keyboard layout on my PC. I'm so used to it I have to actively decide against using proper quotes and dashes and whatnot. I don't bother on mobile, though.

Every time someone states they stop reading when they encounter proper typography, I feel attacked.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#67

I had no idea what I was using were called “EM-dashes” until the AI bubble. I just used them to reflect pauses in my speech for tangents - an old habit from my IRC days. Incidentally, some folks reported my stuff for potential AI generation and I had to respond to the mods about it. So that was kinda funny, if also sad to hear that some folks thought I was a bot. I’m a dinosaur, not a robot dinosaur. I’m nowhere near…

But the em-dash is a different character. I think even those that use a pause would just opt for - on their keyboard, whereas the em-dash — requires additional work on most (all?) keyboard layouts. It's _not_ more work for an AI though hence why it's a tell.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#68

Most people want to avoid looking like AI, ut what if you want to blend in with the robot uprising. I present ⸻ the U+2E3B dash.

The Big Chungus of dashes. Could this be the character that has the widest rendering?!

Unlikely in non-english languages (I seem to remember some super wide Arabic "single character" ones...?)

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#69
There is one thing I am the most scared off and that is believing a comment, video, picture is AI generated while it wasnt.

There is no real AI detection tool that works.

When we see something like emd-ashes its simply the average of the used text the models trained on. If you fall into one the averages of a model you basically part of the model ouput. Yikes.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#70

I would like to formally petition that the tech world at large replace "em-dash" with "clank" in all correspondence

like bang instead of exclamation point? or dot instead of period? I like it. even though I used to like pointing out the difference between a hyphen and a period.

It makes it much more fun to imagine a room full of robots in overcoats trying to pass off as human, but doing a terrible job due to the audible "clanks" betraying them from beneath the coat.

Spaces like HN then become a cacophony of clankers clanking as their numbers increase

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