I wish browsers had 3 suggestions for which folder to put the bookmark into - that would save me time scrolling through my bookmarks.
Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)
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Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)
#62For what it's worth, the basic reasons I use some form of bookmarks are:
1. I want to go back to a website for new content; or
2. I want to store content to read/view later; or
3. I want to share something with someone else who is not sitting next to me.
So for 1, I really want a link, for 2 I really want a local copy (in case the page moves or is removed), and for 3 I'd like to send someone (or a group of people) a copy (for the same reason as 2, but usually the time interval is shorter so it's less likely that the page will vanish, so a link is more acceptable). Sync across machines is also great for 1 and 2, not so much for 3.
I really haven't found a browser-based tool that I like for any of these. I mostly use email for 2 and 3 because I can copy and paste text or attach a file to store a copy of the content. For 1 I usually type in the URL because it works with any browser, but I do keep some bookmarks for sites I rarely visit.
A dedicated tool could do a lot better than my email client, though. Even though I want the original content, I'd usually like to know if it's been updated or changed since I last looked at it (imagine storing a copy of this comment thread, for example), which would be easy to do within firefox but is impossible as I have it set up.
Edit: I forgot to mention the other nice feature of email: most clients can easily handle thousands of emails easily -- they do it by: search; folders/tagging; threading; sorting by different columns; and I'm sure I'm missing others. So those might be other organization schemes to consider; I don't think that organizing the bookmarks into piles is going to scale well.
Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)
#63Pure browser feature bookmarking features (meaning not extension based) have evolved much slower than other features ( or to be exact, concepts) and what i take in the end regarding the article are UX impromevents on the existing features but not much about concepts, namedly searching and perhaps organization. By search i mean the ability to, on the bookmarks page, search not only by the bookmark title but by the URL…
At least one bookmarking service, pinboard.in, offers a paid option of full text search on the contents of all bookmarks: http://pinboard.in/upgrade/
Cool in itself, wasn't aware, but dependent on a thirdy party service and indexing/searching seems to happen online?
A browser builtin local solution could be best
Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)
#64Pure browser feature bookmarking features (meaning not extension based) have evolved much slower than other features ( or to be exact, concepts) and what i take in the end regarding the article are UX impromevents on the existing features but not much about concepts, namedly searching and perhaps organization. By search i mean the ability to, on the bookmarks page, search not only by the bookmark title but by the URL…
At least one bookmarking service, pinboard.in, offers a paid option of full text search on the contents of all bookmarks: http://pinboard.in/upgrade/
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Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)
#65The most interesting and important topic which is near and dear to me and I find it totally unbelievable that nowhere in your article/study above, you make a single mention of the browser History and how it correlates with the user's need and habit of saving-of-bookmarks. Browser history (in theory) is basically your bookmarks which you never saved manually but they are there in your browser available for you at the command. Now, how Mozilla is going to upgrade its long-overdue Bookmarks Manager without paying any attention to the History feature, is beyond me.
In any case, I welcome this blog post. It's been a long time. One thing I really hope Mozilla does is that they get rid of their tags, or at least they come to some sort of standards with other browsers. Nobody else is supporting the tags as Firefox and that in itself is a limitation because you are holding up the user base with your tags. And what are the odds that your article also does not discuss tags (am I missing something big here??).
Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)
#66Pure browser feature bookmarking features (meaning not extension based) have evolved much slower than other features ( or to be exact, concepts) and what i take in the end regarding the article are UX impromevents on the existing features but not much about concepts, namedly searching and perhaps organization. By search i mean the ability to, on the bookmarks page, search not only by the bookmark title but by the URL…
By search i mean the ability to, on the bookmarks page, search not only by the bookmark title but by the URL content itself... Opera, circa 2008: http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/indexing-and-searching-in...
Exactly. Thanks! Had no idea that feature existed, going to try it out. Always have Opera i stalled and the UI is cool but frequent crashes (on OSX) and, i admit, mainstreams, make ne not using it much although i do cross html browser tests there
Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least one bookmarking service, pinboard.in, offers a paid option of full text search on the contents of all bookmarks: http://pinboard.in/upgrade/
Cool in itself, wasn't aware, but dependent on a thirdy party service and indexing/searching seems to happen online? A browser builtin local solution could be best
I don't know... I'd prefer an online option, so that I could have the same bookmarks searched from multiple devices (desktop, laptop, tablet, etc...)
Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)
#68I used to save bookmarks like crazy, and I was in the boat that had used stumble upon, delicous, magnolia, and diigo. I don't use social bookmarking anymore, or regular bookmarking because I'm always on my own computer can can you the autocomplete search bar to bring on past visit websites.
1. Tab - One time read 2. History - I might need to return a few times in a week, month 3. Bookmark - Something I want indefinitely Rails API
Its never hard to remember your favorite websites, chrome autocompletes it, it'd be faster to autocomplete type it then click a dropdown menu.
The only Mozilla UX news that will interest me is if they made the default look of Firefox not feel heavy. I still think of Firefox as being slow.
Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)
#69I used to save bookmarks like crazy, and I was in the boat that had used stumble upon, delicous, magnolia, and diigo. I don't use social bookmarking anymore, or regular bookmarking because I'm always on my own computer can can you the autocomplete search bar to bring on past visit websites.
1. Tab - One time read 2. History - I might need to return a few times in a week, month 3. Bookmark - Something I want indefinitely Rails API
Its never hard to remember your favorite websites, chrome autocompletes it, it'd be faster to autocomplete type it then click a dropdown menu.
The only Mozilla UX news that will interest me is if they made the default look of Firefox not feel heavy. I still think of Firefox as being slow.
Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you seen Historious? http://historio.us/
Woohoo, I made that. Have a free premium month as a thanks for the recommendation (what's your username)?
I'm a paying user of yours so I don't have any specific problem with you or historious, but I don't like that you're offering a free month here. I'm sure it won't really have any impact, but in theory by rewarding people who say "have you tried " in a HN comment you're incentivising people to make those comments, essentially offering people the chance to use a referrals scheme without it going through referral links.