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Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

deaux wrote: post #52
OneMorePerson wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen this in Asia, there's an employee who basically is standing at a raised spot in the corner and if you take out your phone they shoot a small laser pointer right into the camera, it messes with the video. They can't get it on there all the time but a video where half of it (or more they are surprisingly accurate) is a strobing laser becomes pretty garbage anyways. While they are doing that another employee/b…

> I've seen this in Asia "I've seen this on planet earth" Afghanistan? China? Tonga?

True, it wasn't very specific, but I think we can rule out Afghanistan where music and dancing are illegal.. I haven't been to Tonga, seems possible that there might a little nightlife in Nukuʻalofa but probably not laser-wielding security, so that narrows it down a little.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by watwut »

whackernews wrote: post #14
mellosouls wrote: post #5

A non-paywalled discussion on the subject from a year ago: Nightclub stickers over smartphone rule divides the dancefloor (85 points, 91 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825 I've never understood the appeal of so-called "dance" events. Crowds of thousands like sardines swaying-at-best to the DJ being treated as a rockstar but without the talent and entertainment as far as I can see. Note: this isn'…

Just regarding the drugs: I can totally understand when people are anti-drugs. I’d say it still depends on someone’s personality though. I’ve always thought that drugs and alcohol don’t really change your personality they just amplify it. If someone’s not really a dancer and maybe a bit anxious (seemingly every kid these days) they end up taking a load of drugs to compensate but just end up vegetated. If you’re alrea…

I dont think so. People who did not dance unless they drunk at least a little were super normal a generation ago. They did not ended in vegetative state or "compensating a lot".

Alcohol removed inhibitions and that allowed them to dance.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by raffael_de »

rumori wrote: post #3

Berghain puts stickers on your phone cameras, it’s pretty non intrusive while substantially improving the party experience. I didn’t see a single phone in the air on the dancefloor. It was quite refreshing, felt like partying in the 2000s.

In Berghain this is also done for tangential, yet, rather specific reasons that do not apply to most clubs and discos.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by dangus »

pjmlp wrote: post #31
dangus wrote: post #29

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That was in the era of $10 shows. If I am paying $700 to see Lady Gaga you bet your ass I’m taking some pictures. I actually find k-pop shows somewhat refreshing because there’s zero negative stigma for wanting to record pictures or video. I can easily tell that Gen Z/Alpha has no problem enjoying themselves and even dancing while recording a video. If a phone is blocking your view the venue is designed wrong, or you…

For what, to say "I was there"?

Because I enjoy watching the videos later.

I don’t know why the techno-reactionary assumption is that the kids are just doing it for clout online, or that the kids recording aren’t enjoying themselves in the moment. To me, that viewpoint seems like an unsubstantiated assumption, and an embodiment of the “old man yelling at clouds” meme.

I am fully capable of enjoying myself while recording a video/picture.

You’d be amazed at the kind of video and audio quality modern smartphones are capable of taking in a concert setting. The audio quality might even beat the live experience, especially since I need special earplugs to be able to enjoy most concerts without them being too loud and washed out.

The smartphone doesn’t have the same problems that human ears have.

Modern telephoto lenses and video stabilization are incredible. My phone can literally see the stage better than my eyes can.

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Post by wink »

hahn-kev wrote: post #59
bpavuk wrote: post #38

I remember being on a concert relatively recently, a few years ago. nearly everyone had their phones up, mine was in a pocket. no one made a single movement that resembled dance, everyone just... stood still. that differed by a great measure from several concerts I attended circa 2018-19. on both music fests, I was in flow. I've been dancing - it's a usual thing all humans naturally do when they hear rhythm that reso…

I don't think they were scrolling. They were recording, which I think is a very very different thing from doom scrolling addiction. But man that sucks, there should be a phone free zone in the concert.

Which would prevent prevent people from snapping 1-2 pictures per band in a 4h concert, which I would kinda not like. Maybe it would improve the experience enough though, or you'd have to move to the bar area and take your one pic there.

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Post by dangus »

pjmlp wrote: post #56
shibapuppie wrote: post #51

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Why take pictures at all? Why did our grandparents bother to photograph anything at all, ever! WE ALL KNOW THEY WERE THERE! That's how you sound.

Except they didn't photograph every little second of their lives, they enjoyed the moment.

I’ve turned myself in to the police because I wasn’t enjoying the moment enough. I regret my crimes. I know better now to have exercised free will too extremely.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by pjmlp »

dangus wrote: post #66
pjmlp wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except they didn't photograph every little second of their lives, they enjoyed the moment.

I’ve turned myself in to the police because I wasn’t enjoying the moment enough. I regret my crimes. I know better now to have exercised free will too extremely.

I hope bail wasn't too expensive.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by wormpilled »

blinding-streak wrote: post #4

https://archive.ph/6YKLN

Thank you, seeing that Instagram video linked in the article is a great detail a lot of people are missing because they won't look past the paywall.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBMh48KvHYz/

It is utterly pathetic.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by wolvesechoes »

dangus wrote: post #64
pjmlp wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what, to say "I was there"?

Because I enjoy watching the videos later. I don’t know why the techno-reactionary assumption is that the kids are just doing it for clout online, or that the kids recording aren’t enjoying themselves in the moment. To me, that viewpoint seems like an unsubstantiated assumption, and an embodiment of the “old man yelling at clouds” meme. I am fully capable of enjoying myself while recording a video/picture. You’d be a…

> My phone can literally see the stage better than my eyes can

Feel sorry for you. Try spending less time in front of the screen.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by surgical_fire »

bpavuk wrote: post #38

I remember being on a concert relatively recently, a few years ago. nearly everyone had their phones up, mine was in a pocket. no one made a single movement that resembled dance, everyone just... stood still. that differed by a great measure from several concerts I attended circa 2018-19. on both music fests, I was in flow. I've been dancing - it's a usual thing all humans naturally do when they hear rhythm that reso…

> I've been dancing - it's a usual thing all humans naturally do when they hear rhythm that resonates with them unless they consciously resist dancing for one reason or another.

When I went to concerts it was heavy metal.

No one was dancing. Unless you consider banging heads a form of dancing. People did sing along though.

Last concerts I went to (respectively 2019 and 2024, I don't go to many concerts nowadays) people mostly behaved as they did in the past. Only a few were filming the concert with their cellphones, but this was definitely the minority.

I don't live in the US. Maybe this is a bit of cultural differences in terms of geography and in terms of demographic for the genre?

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