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Mystery donor gives Japanese city $3.6M in gold bars to fix water system

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And that's Osaka. Osaka's population peaked around 2017.[1] The only major city in Japan not on a downtrend is Yokohama, which is in the Greater Tokyo area. Keeping up all the infrastructure as the population declines is tough. That's one of the challenges of this century for the developed world. [1] https://worldpopulationreview.com/cities/japan/osaka

Why is it difficult? I assume the proportion of infrastructure experts would stay the same.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a pattern where criminal organizations fill governance gaps rather than starting as genuine governments. The Yakuza did this opportunistically at certain historical moments. Hamas is a similar example (not a criminal organisation, but..) , allthough they are more of a institution-building than the Yakuza ever was.

Probably the best example of this are American mafias.

Yes, it’s a big reason why they have always tended to be based out of immigrant communities - those were excluded from mainstream culture, governance, etc.

If you were mainstream you didn’t need the mafia - you were already the gov’t, the police, etc.

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And that's Osaka. Osaka's population peaked around 2017.[1] The only major city in Japan not on a downtrend is Yokohama, which is in the Greater Tokyo area. Keeping up all the infrastructure as the population declines is tough. That's one of the challenges of this century for the developed world. [1] https://worldpopulationreview.com/cities/japan/osaka

Why is it difficult? I assume the proportion of infrastructure experts would stay the same.

Because you now have more infrastructure than people to pay for and maintain it. As population density decreases, the people that remain are using oversized infrastructure. The relationship between required maintenance and amount of usage is far from linear. For a lot of infrastructure being underused means additional maintenance procedures become necessary.

A way to combat this is to move people and condense the population again, abandoning areas in the process and pretty much writing them off. Not optimal, but it'll help.

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More than 20% of Japan's water pipes have passed their legal service life of 40 years, according to local media That is rather low. The US still has some wooden(!) water pipes in use, as well as other plumbing installed in the late 19th/early 20th century.

Is that why the American tourists in Europe always ask if tap water is drinkable?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Japan, a culture so public-spirited that even the local Yakuza decide to contribute to the plumbing.

There's a pattern where criminal organizations fill governance gaps rather than starting as genuine governments. The Yakuza did this opportunistically at certain historical moments. Hamas is a similar example (not a criminal organisation, but..) , allthough they are more of a institution-building than the Yakuza ever was.

Mafias generally fill the same functions of the government but for the underworld: providing "protection", extracting "taxes", enforcing rules via the use of violence, and so on.

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It is an outrageously cool thing to give money for an infrastructure project. They must have some faith that the government can deliver on something with $3.5 million. That would be two public toilets in SF, one toilet of which actually cost $300k in paperwork and so on despite two local businessmen signing up to have the work done.

Plot twist: the donation is from the owner of the company doing the infra project with the intention to launder money.

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The city has 3m people according to the article. Even if only 10% are tax payers... all they need is a little over $10 per tax payer to equal the donation. I mean the donation is cool. And will hopefully get the residents thinking about how they can also help their city. But I can't help thinking how it's just a small band-aid on a city that can't manage it's infrastructure budget as needed.

Wow! Thats wild, I thought Osaka was on par with Tokyo? It certainly feels so. Im very confused. Im just returning from a 1.8 million city in China, thats considered a village.

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More than 20% of Japan's water pipes have passed their legal service life of 40 years, according to local media That is rather low. The US still has some wooden(!) water pipes in use, as well as other plumbing installed in the late 19th/early 20th century.

Is that why the American tourists in Europe always ask if tap water is drinkable?

I got a nasty stomach bug from drinking the tap water in Sicily.

And then I told the rest of America to watch out for the water in Europe. So it’s me; I’m the reason.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Japan, a culture so public-spirited that even the local Yakuza decide to contribute to the plumbing.

There's a pattern where criminal organizations fill governance gaps rather than starting as genuine governments. The Yakuza did this opportunistically at certain historical moments. Hamas is a similar example (not a criminal organisation, but..) , allthough they are more of a institution-building than the Yakuza ever was.

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