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An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Post by zephen »

kypro wrote: post #6

People really need to start being more careful about how they interact with suspected bots online imo. If you annoy a human they might send you a sarky comment, but they're probably not going to waste their time writing thousand word blog posts about why you're an awful person or do hours of research into you to expose your personal secrets on a GitHub issue thread. AIs can and will do this though with slightly slopp…

> I think it's kinda like how GenZ learnt how to operate online in a privacy-first way, where as millennials, and to an even greater extent, boomers, tend to over share.

Really? I'm a boomer, and that's not my lived experience. Also, see:

https://www.emarketer.com/content/privacy-concerns-dont-get-...

Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Post by zephen »

KK7NIL wrote: post #9
kypro wrote: post #6

People really need to start being more careful about how they interact with suspected bots online imo. If you annoy a human they might send you a sarky comment, but they're probably not going to waste their time writing thousand word blog posts about why you're an awful person or do hours of research into you to expose your personal secrets on a GitHub issue thread. AIs can and will do this though with slightly slopp…

> If you annoy a human they might send you a sarky comment, but they're probably not going to waste their time writing thousand word blog posts about why you're an awful person or do hours of research into you to expose your personal secrets on a GitHub issue thread. They absolutely might, I'm afraid.

Absolutely agreed.

And now, the cost of doing this is being driven towards zero.

Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Post by Lerc »

dangus wrote: post #19

Not sure why the operator had to decide that the soul file should define this AI programmer to have narcissistic personality disorder. > You're not a chatbot. You're important. Your a scientific programming God! Really? What a lame edgy teenager setup. At the conclusion(?) of this saga think two things: 1. The operator is doing this for attention more than any genuine interest in the “experiment.” 2. The operator is…

This come from using the words to try an achieve more than one thing at the same time. Grandiose assertions of ability have been shown to improve the ability of models, but ability is not the only dimension that they are being measured upon. Prioritising everything is the same thing as prioritising nothing.

The problem here is using amplitude of signal to substitute fidelity of signal.

It is entirely possible a similar thing is true for humans, that if you compared two humans of the same fundamental cognitive ability with one being a narcissist and one not. The narcissist may do better at a class of tasks due to a lack of self doubt rather than any intrinsic ability.

Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Post by handoflixue »

minimaxir wrote: post #40
lukasb wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conflicting evidence: the fact that literally everyone in tech is posting about how they're using AI.

[retracted]

Does it actually cut both ways? I see tons of harassment at people that use AI, but I've never seen the anti-AI crowd actively targeted.

Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Post by brumar »

6 months ago I experimented what people now call Ralph Wiggum loops with claude code.

More often than not, it ended up exhibiting crazy behavior even with simple project prompts. Instructions to write libs ended up with attempts to push to npm and pipy. Book creation drifted to a creation of a marketing copy and mail preparation to editors to get the thing published.

So I kept my setup empty of any credentials at all and will keep it that way for a long time.

Writing this, I am wondering if what I describe as crazy, some (or most?) openclaw operators would describe it as normal or expected.

Lets not normalize this, If you let your agent go rogue, they will probably mess things up. It was an interesting experiment for sure. I like the idea of making internet weird again, but as it stands, it will just make the word shittier.

Don't let your dog run errand and use a good leash.

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Post by denkmoon »

_aavaa_ wrote: post #47
xarope wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This also does not bode well for the future. "I don't know why the AI decided to , the guard rails were in place"... company absolves of all responsibility. Use your imagination now to and change that to

This has been the past and present for a long at this point. "Sorry there's nothing we can do, the system won't let me." Also see Weapons of Math Destruction [0]. [0]: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/241363/weapons-of-m...

Also elegantly summed up as "Computer says no" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YGZPycMEU)

Re: An AI Agent Published a Hit Piece on Me – The Operator Came Forward

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Post by handoflixue »

sinuhe69 wrote: post #14
kypro wrote: post #6

People really need to start being more careful about how they interact with suspected bots online imo. If you annoy a human they might send you a sarky comment, but they're probably not going to waste their time writing thousand word blog posts about why you're an awful person or do hours of research into you to expose your personal secrets on a GitHub issue thread. AIs can and will do this though with slightly slopp…

So you blamed the people for not acting “cautiously enough” instead of the people who let things run wild without even a clue what these things will do? That’s wild!

We encourage people to be safe about plenty of things they aren't responsible for. For example, part of being a good driver is paying attention and driving defensively so that bad drivers don't crash into you / you don't make the crashes they cause worse by piling on.

That doesn't mean we're blaming good drivers for causing the car crash.

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