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Keybee: A Keyboard Designed for Smartphones

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Re: Keybee: A Keyboard Designed for Smartphones

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When I go to enable it I get 'may be able to collect all the data you type, including ... passwords'. 'may be able to'? How is this not knowable? Do I have to wait for effect systems to gain popularity before installations make sense?

"May be able" refers to collect, which is entirely up to the app. It does have access to password as you write them with it. It doesn't know what you're writing and it MAY collect. But it's not clear if it does collect.

Re: Keybee: A Keyboard Designed for Smartphones

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Japanese have a flick-style keyboard, very similar to T9. Instead of pressing a key multiple times, you press one key then flick up/down/left/right to choose a letter on that key.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BhD6r8NKlmY

I find there's a lot more intention behind your actions and I make far less typos when I'm flicking in Japanese vs typing on a touchscreen QWERTY. Being a second language, typos are even more common because its not at recognizable at a glance you made them, so the flicking been a huge improvement.

I always wonder if English should have something like this. I guess "MessageEase" is the most similar thing...

Re: Keybee: A Keyboard Designed for Smartphones

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Well, it’s interesting, but who is heavily working with text, which requires a lot of typing, and only has a smartphone? Phones are mostly for consuming. For creating, it’s usually easier and more comfortable to use a device with a keyboard (PC or laptop)

1) Like 80% of the world is smartphone-only 2) In my (wealthy, Boston area) suburb most high school students do all their work - including writing multi-page papers - entirely on their phone. They think laptops are for old people.

Are they typing or dictating? Voice is an underrated input method

Re: Keybee: A Keyboard Designed for Smartphones

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This is gonna be like Dvorak where eventually we all figure out that it’s not significantly faster and you had to re-learn how to type just to figure that out. I submit the idea that for most smartphone users, distance traveled and layout are not the limiting factor for typing speed.

> This is gonna be like Dvorak where eventually we all figure out that it’s not significantly faster and you had to re-learn how to type just to figure that out. Generally nowadays people don't learn Dvorak because it's faster, they learn it because it reduces finger travel and effort. Those factors apply here too.

Much better to use completion/expansion facilities than to learn a non-standard layout. Trying to use any device when you're used to Dvorak is such indescribable suffering.

Rather than experiencing that in exchange for a tiny amount of saved effort, stick with QWERTY and press TAB/etc to skip most of the typing.

Re: Keybee: A Keyboard Designed for Smartphones

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The delta between thinking about it and doing it is why there’s so many solid one-and-done apps that don’t exist. I strongly encourage people to do it, especially if they’re not going to try to cash in.

There's https://simplemobiletools.com , who are doing their job to close that delta (not affiliated with them)

Those were sold to a predatory company. https://github.com/SimpleMobileTools/General-Discussion/issu...

Fork is https://github.com/FossifyOrg

Re: Keybee: A Keyboard Designed for Smartphones

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post #26

Well, it’s interesting, but who is heavily working with text, which requires a lot of typing, and only has a smartphone? Phones are mostly for consuming. For creating, it’s usually easier and more comfortable to use a device with a keyboard (PC or laptop)

> who is heavily working with text, which requires a lot of typing, and only has a smartphone?

People reading HN on the subway, who have some insightful comment to add, but are slowed down by unergonomic input methods?

Re: Keybee: A Keyboard Designed for Smartphones

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somehow , i get the sneaking suspicion, that while not perfect, qwerty actually works on mobile phones because it’s focused on not conflicting keys when typing (so tapping with thumbs work /better/ because of this).

for example, "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.” — means right hand. you can see in a common phrase like this, you alternate sides more often. when you’re thumb-tapping, i think this is useful.

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Re: Keybee: A Keyboard Designed for Smartphones

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's https://simplemobiletools.com , who are doing their job to close that delta (not affiliated with them)

Those were sold to a predatory company. https://github.com/SimpleMobileTools/General-Discussion/issu... Fork is https://github.com/FossifyOrg

Incredible, we cannot drop the guard even for a second. Thank you for the heads up!

Re: Keybee: A Keyboard Designed for Smartphones

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's https://simplemobiletools.com , who are doing their job to close that delta (not affiliated with them)

Those were sold to a predatory company. https://github.com/SimpleMobileTools/General-Discussion/issu... Fork is https://github.com/FossifyOrg

Yet another tool that the users should have wanted to pay for before someone else did.

Re: Keybee: A Keyboard Designed for Smartphones

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I can touch-type with flow typing in GBoard at this point. That's to say, I'm writing this comment on my Android phone without looking at the keyboard. QWERTY is in my muscle memory in such a way that words have become writable as single stroke characters. I really, really doubt this Keybee thing can be an improvement over that in any way.

People riding horse buggies probably thought the same when powered vehicles first came about, and look at the world now. You won't know unless you give it a honest try.

QWERTY won't be replaced on phones until there is a full phase change in how people interact with their phones that absolves us of keyboards entirely. Anybody here who thinks otherwise is welcome to make an offer to buy my two decades of notes on the topic.
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