I tried to find on that website the equivalents of Google, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, TSMC, Nvidia, OpenAI, Meta, Broadcom, Oracle but didn't succeed.
Zoom in Veldhoven and then try to see the equivalent of ASML anywhere else.
European Tech Alternatives
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#62Over the last 20 years, Europe has become irrelevant. There is not a single European LLM on the same level as US or Chinese models. France's Mistral reached 400M in revenue, but I believe it could have been more relevant if the EU had not slowed everything down with overregulation.
That assumes LLMs are relevant and will be around a year from now. Let’s not forget NFTs. Your comment is also blind to the absurd amount of research and projects which are born here but later move to look for funding. So the EU is not irrelevant, on the contrary, we’re just mourning the fall of the US and transitioning to an independent future. Who would’ve though, we’d end up needing to build a copy of everything…
Listen to Rubio's speech again.
The EU is in a managed decline, and no number of migrants will change that.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I feel sad for the 20-year-old me who really believed in the declaration of the independence of cyberspace. Cyberspace depends on physical reality and everything that comes from that. Resource constraints, economics, politics, arms races, warfare, etc.
Cyberspace promised us we can all work together to create things, like one species coming together to solve problems. Now in 2026, we need to “space” for every little tribe…
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#65Over the last 20 years, Europe has become irrelevant. There is not a single European LLM on the same level as US or Chinese models. France's Mistral reached 400M in revenue, but I believe it could have been more relevant if the EU had not slowed everything down with overregulation.
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#66Using a European solution just because it’s European sounds wrong to me. Sounds like we’ve done this kind of nationalism in the past and failed. There are other reasons why Europe isn’t attractive for bringing these kinds of technologies to life, and investor money is only a small part of it. Especially in a company’s early days. Building a market reserved for mediocre tech solutions sounds like the wrong way to make…
> Building a market reserved for mediocre tech solutions sounds like the wrong way to make Europe more independent. You can’t foster excellence if you don’t reward it monetarily (enough). No unified capital markets, no high reward as an investor. As an employer/employee takes a year to fire people even when they don’t show up, ergo the incentive is to coast. As a founder you’re buried in bureaucracy and taxes, so the…
In what country? I just checked, in France it's 15 days. The employer can ask to be paid the notice period, and the employee won't get unemployment benefits.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why does Europe need to dump hundreds of billions of dollars into developing a chatbot that will never be able to pay off its debts? Mistral seems like a much more practical and sustainable approach to LLM development than centering the entire economy around a pyramid scheme predicated on selling the belief that AGI is always three months away. China's LLM development relative to resources spent is impressive, but it…
You lost all your credibility if you see AI as "a chatbot".
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#68Over the last 20 years, Europe has become irrelevant. There is not a single European LLM on the same level as US or Chinese models. France's Mistral reached 400M in revenue, but I believe it could have been more relevant if the EU had not slowed everything down with overregulation.
That assumes LLMs are relevant and will be around a year from now. Let’s not forget NFTs. Your comment is also blind to the absurd amount of research and projects which are born here but later move to look for funding. So the EU is not irrelevant, on the contrary, we’re just mourning the fall of the US and transitioning to an independent future. Who would’ve though, we’d end up needing to build a copy of everything…
These two things are not alike. At all.
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#69Every time I see an idea like this (or a politician talking about tech 'sovereignty') I feel sad for the 20-year-old me who really believed in the declaration of the independence of cyberspace. > Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have…
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
That assumes LLMs are relevant and will be around a year from now. Let’s not forget NFTs. Your comment is also blind to the absurd amount of research and projects which are born here but later move to look for funding. So the EU is not irrelevant, on the contrary, we’re just mourning the fall of the US and transitioning to an independent future. Who would’ve though, we’d end up needing to build a copy of everything…
" we’re just mourning the fall of the US ". Listen to Rubio's speech again. The EU is in a managed decline, and no number of migrants will change that.