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There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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So what are we going to do about China?

The same China that, added more new solar capacity in 2024 than the US currently has total? And is currently at 36% of its total energy use from renewable sources compared to the US's 23%? And has ~32GW of nuclear plants in construction compared to the US's 2.5GW?

I hope we steal their playbook.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

#63

I wonder if we should move beyond this messaging. It’s well known to the smart half of the population that climate change is happening. There is apparently some debate on the cause. But this point is mostly irrelevant, it is problem-oriented thinking. By keeping the conversation in the problem-realm you invite troglodytes into the conversation to insert their bullshit. Instead, if we move forward with “presumption of…

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Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not per capita. The US is still the worst large country. If you account for offshoring manufacturing then the US looks even worse. https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-greenhouse-gas-emissions

Why should should per-capita be most important? If country A keeps their population stable and emissions under control, but country B of the same starting population, keeps doubling their population and doubling their emissions, why should country A have an increasingly declined allowance of emissions when they were more responsible in keeping their total emissions down (by not having as many people)?

If country B splits into countries C, D, E and F, all of which emit less than country A, has it found an effective way to reduce emissions? Should all countries adopt the Monaco lifestyle to defeat global warming? I guess if you want to find a fair way to measure administration of land you could emmisions per hectare or rainfall.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a troll comment. China produces as much or more CO2 as much as the next 5 countries combined. It's logical to start with the king of greenhouse emissions if you want to stop global warming.

Not per capita. The US is still the worst large country. If you account for offshoring manufacturing then the US looks even worse. https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-greenhouse-gas-emissions

The climate doesn’t care about per capita obviously.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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We've already lost the battle to prevent catastrophic change:

https://davidsuzuki.org/story/is-it-too-late-to-escape-clima...

And 7 of 9 boundaries have been crossed?

https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-bound...

This is starting to look more like the movie _Don't Look Up_.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

#67

So what are we going to do about China?

Nothing? China is solving the problem on their own. They already make substantially less carbon per person that most of the west. If we want to be like China it's a simple proposition: be OK with Manhattan project level investments in power transmission from places that have lots of renewables to places that need renewables.

Climate is determined by total CO2 output, not per capita.

That’s a real problem, because China, and all the poor countries in Asia and Africa aren’t going to stop increasing their CO2 output per capita until they reach western standards of living.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

#68

I've shifted my mindset to abandon this idea that humanity will survive forever, or that we should strive to live as long as we can. Intelligence is a scarcity and it cannot overcome the majority of people that are incredibly stupid or ignorant. So accepting that we are doomed relieves some of the stress. I won't have children to worry about their future, either. I still live my life in such a way that minimizes my i…

I mean, all of humanity has lived in the period between two glacial eras, I don't expect us to go beyond that. This should be clear even to people who choose to ignore the facts about climate change.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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I’ve given up. I’ve long assumed for a year now we are heading for warming that is even worse than the worst projections and it’s all over. This has given me some peace, like accepting you’re going to die.

Same, sadly. I’ve done far more than my part, and even my direct family hasn’t, let alone the rest of the country, the world. I only hope I can have a decent life until it ends, and I hope it takes slightly longer than I think it will.

I still remain optimistic that the clever folks can avoid the absolute worst outcomes. However, I too am very frustrated that almost nobody gives a shit about the future. We are rapidly reaching the point where WE will live through the effects, and our own children will suffer much worse.

I basically see it as a moral wrong and a grave ethical failure to use fossil fuels at this point. Except for home heating, I am now close to directly powering my entire life with clean, renewable energy. It was not hard. It was expensive, but only in the short term; I have effectively prepaid for my power needs for at least the next 25 years, and over than span it is very inexpensive.

A modern EV is about the same price as any other car, goes about the same distance, and is only slightly more time to fuel in the worst case. In the typical case, you don’t think about charging at all. The fact that I can’t get my supposedly environmentally conscious family of scientists and engineers to care continues to stun me. Somehow saving money while improving the world is “a waste of money” while buying an expensive hobby vehicle or vacation home is not. Frustrating.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is rapidly going green.

Is the US even more rapidly going green? https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/co2?hideControls=false&... China's emissions were 10 billion tons CO2 in 2017 and have increased every single year to 12.29 billion tons CO2 in 2024. Meanwhile, US decreased from 5.22 to 4.9 in the same time

1/4 the population. Per capita we are 65% worse not considering how much of China's pollution is on our behalf
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