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Re: Google Public CA is down

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TMEHpodcast wrote: post #43

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Re: Google Public CA is down

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Post by jsheard »

tokyobreakfast wrote: post #60
jsheard wrote: post #59

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There's at least five free ACME CAs, with failover it doesn't matter all that much if one of them falls over. If all of them fall over at once there's probably a more pressing issue like nuclear holocaust or alien invasion going on.

How many servers are set up with CA redundancy? I've yet to see one let alone hear of this practice.

For one, Cloudflare uses four different CAs almost interchangeably. Caddy also makes it easy to configure ACME failover if you're self-hosting, and defaults to using two different CAs if you don't specify any.

Frankly even with no CA redundancy, downtime would have to drag on for weeks to actually disrupt renewals. ACME certs usually get rotated after about 2/3rds of their duration has expired, so the upcoming 45 day certs will still have about 15 days of wiggle room.

Re: Google Public CA is down

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Post by tfsh »

tokyobreakfast wrote: post #49
LPisGood wrote: post #44

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I also never get these. It might be because you interact with them.

I browse logged out. Interact when them I do not. The weight loss and solar scams are forced advertisements before every video.

> I browse logged out. Interact when them I do not.

The logged out experience is closer to the interests of the average person. So if you're not pruning (and savings) your interests, that's hardly surprising.

Re: Google Public CA is down

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Post by Arainach »

bigbuppo wrote: post #45
LPisGood wrote: post #37

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Please tell me more about The Great Oops

It's inevitable that one of the major cloud providers will irrecoverably delete all customer data with one single fat-fingered command. Though in google's case I'll also consider the prophecy to be fulfilled if they delete their own data. It will forever be known as The Great Oops.

It's not inevitable, it's essentially impossible.

There are a few things that can cause tremendously widespread outages, essentially all of them network configuration changes. Actually deleting customer data is dramatically more difficult to the point of impossible - there are so many different services in so many different locations with so many layers of access control. There is no "one command" that can do such a thing - at the scale of a worldwide network of data centers there is no "rm -rf /".

Re: Google Public CA is down

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Post by tokyobreakfast »

tfsh wrote: post #63
tokyobreakfast wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I browse logged out. Interact when them I do not. The weight loss and solar scams are forced advertisements before every video.

> I browse logged out. Interact when them I do not. The logged out experience is closer to the interests of the average person. So if you're not pruning (and savings) your interests, that's hardly surprising.

The average person wants to be served AI slop and scams?

Re: Google Public CA is down

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Post by OhMeadhbh »

I worked at RSADSI when I was a kid and supported the custom spin of TIPEM Hayden and Sophia used at Verisign. This brings back some very bad memories.

But... hopefully... people created overlapping windows of cert validity so there's always a valid cert available for their services and can tolerate the CA being out of action for 8(?) hours. Imagine if your TGS/Kerberos or AWS IAM IdP was down for 8 hours.

Re: Google Public CA is down

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Post by TMEHpodcast »

14 wrote: post #61
TMEHpodcast wrote: post #43

It is a well-known fact that the moment YouTube goes down, the collective productivity of Earth increases by approximately 4,000%, which is immediately squandered by everyone going to Hacker News to read comments about YouTube being down. I myself have taken to podcasts… an ancient medium in which people simply talk at you for ninety minutes without a single sponsorship for a mobile game, and this is considered a fai…

Well one must also argue the opposite. I myself have gained immense knowledge from YouTube. I have learned things like phone screen replacements or phone battery replacements. I call myself a mechanic from the school of YouTube and have saved myself at minimum $10k in repairs doing the work myself. I have learned to make endless food recipes or create things like giant bubbles or slime for my kids. My point is that I…

Congratulations! You’ve successfully avoided YouTube Shorts.

Re: Google Public CA is down

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Post by gilgoomesh »

brikym wrote: post #40
gzread wrote: post #15

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I am playing a YouTube video (since the time of this comment) and it has not been interrupted.

I am too. But I just loaded up a new youtube page and it's completely white except for a few menu buttons.

It seems to be back, now.

Re: Google Public CA is down

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Post by tzs »

cvhc wrote: post #52
dyauspitr wrote: post #20

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You can still see your subscription videos, just not the homepage.

Searching also works. Actually it seems only the recommendation system is down, which I'd say isn't completely a bad thing.

It is pretty annoying for those of us for whom the recommendation system actually works well.
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