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The Mongol Khans of Medieval France

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Post by vee-kay »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #36
orwin wrote: post #6

What's also interesting about the mongols and their inheritors (India's mughals especially) was how weird but effective their administration was. India knew around no global famines and very few local ones (none around the Bengal) in ~300 years of Mughal rule. In ~100 years of British rule, you had regular famines all around India, and some very harsh ones where millions of people died from hunger (which used to be m…

Famines are, with very few exceptions, politico-economic actions, often with intentional malice, rather than a complete inability to obtain enough food.

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thisislife2 wrote: post #45
mdani wrote: post #22

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There were several great famines during the Mughal reign in India, for example, Peter Mundy, the English merchant and traveller, describes the great famine of Deccan and Gujrat. The Mughal rule was brutal. The European travellers have written about the plight of the farmers who rebelled due to excessive taxation despite the fear of punishment. The Mughals built towers of severed heads outside each village and even th…

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vee-kay wrote: post #60
orwin wrote: post #55

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So, counterpoint: genocide aim to destroy the culture of a group, either by killing the women and children alongside to fighters during a conquest/repression, or by forcefully moving them to make them mix with a new dominant culture (Crimean Tatars are an example). This almost always end in streamlining the language and destroying language diversity, often reducing it to a single one for all the survivors/moved. Whil…

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I have been taught the exact same verbose propaganda (invented maths, science, military, astronomy, chemistry, medicine, won this and that war blah blah) written by people from the middle east.

Rise above.

Re: The Mongol Khans of Medieval France

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Post by rramadass »

Even better;

The Story Of The Mongols Whom We Call The Tartars by Friar Giovanni DiPlano Carpini (an Account of his embassy to the court of the Mongol Khan in 1245-1247) - https://archive.org/details/the-story-of-the-mongols-whom-we...

The cover; a picture of a Mongol Warrior in full Panopoly, is itself worth the price of the book!

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Post by vee-kay »

nurettin wrote: post #63
vee-kay wrote: post #60

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I have been taught the exact same verbose propaganda (invented maths, science, military, astronomy, chemistry, medicine, won this and that war blah blah) written by people from the middle east. Rise above.

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dyauspitr wrote: post #24
mdani wrote: post #22

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There were several great famines during the Mughal reign in India, for example, Peter Mundy, the English merchant and traveller, describes the great famine of Deccan and Gujrat. The Mughal rule was brutal. The European travellers have written about the plight of the farmers who rebelled due to excessive taxation despite the fear of punishment. The Mughals built towers of severed heads outside each village and even th…

Mughal rule in India was very inconsistent depending on the ruler in power at the time. There was a huge variety in quality of governance from Akbar to Aurangzeb.

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