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That was almost 7 years ago, the world was in a very different place back then.
Those policies are still in place, as far as I know, so why the past tense?
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No one's murdering innocent citizens on the streets of China
No the murders happen in camps eg. What's happening to the Uyghurs. That said, they also use them as slave labors. Maybe that's what ICE is going to do with the plan to setup large detention centers in the US
Look up the "zero idleness" program at CECOT where the Trump administration is sending deportees.
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#63What a surprise, IIRC in Hong Kong there was a platform that was fully decentralized. HK protesters used it on their phones during their uprising and China could not block it. Maybe it is time people move to that. Sadly I forgot its name or where to get it. Of course the app stores could block that too. There is always USENET I guess. I wonder if there are apps on Cell Phones that can access USENET and format the pos…
> Sadly I forgot its name or where to get it.
Are you thinking of HKmap.live?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HKmap.live
> Of course the app stores could block that too.
And Apple did.
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They are both fully legal.
That's, at the minimum, debatable. The primary point of people reporting on the location if ICE agents is to enable other people to evade or interfere with law enforcement. And that walks right into the illegal zone in various ways - accessory, obstruction, interference, aiding and abetting, and so on.
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I interpret ‘caved’ in this context to mean they’re not gaining much in return - they make a loss by doing this, just they make an even bigger loss if they were targets of a Trump tantrum.
That’s fair, I don’t think the CEOs are fully aligned culturally with Trump but they are sick of pretending to be liberals that care about other people and they want to make more money.
> I don’t think the CEOs are fully aligned culturally with Trump
Does it matter? If all their actions are in support of a regime, does it matter if they secretly don’t agree with it and don’t even say it? Does it matter that your neighbour says they don’t agree with ICE of they still rat you out to them? Ideologies without action aren’t worth much. At this point, we should assume these CEOs are fully on board with and support Trump’s policies. There’s no reason to make up excuses that they might not be when they repeatedly demonstrate the opposite.
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#66What I find most interesting about this is that US tech companies are doing what people accuse China of doing. In fact, theoretical Chinese informed was the entire (performative) justification for the Tiktok ban. The reality of course was that TikTok wouldn’t censor what the US government wanted to censor. The irony is that these companies are sowing the seeds for their own destruction and the US government is underm…
At this point I think the biggest tangible difference between China and the US is that one country has high speed trains and affordable health care and the other has neither.
This kind of reductionist pithy comparison needs to stay on Reddit. Sure stuff is messed up here, but there are very real differences in both the degree and breadth of government abuse of power when you compare with China.
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#67Including Apple. If it's that easy, how long do we really expect Advanced Data Protection to be free from government backdooring?
>If it's that easy, how long do we really expect Advanced Data Protection to be free from government backdooring?
Taking down an app is hardly unprecedented. Forcing companies to add backdoors in secret is, so it's a stretch to think that ADP is compromised.
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#68Now I experience doubt when I read this article whether the journalist actually interviewed anybody, or just cut and pasted ChatGPT.
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#69I thought Republicans were for small government and were anti-censorship.
It's not hard to find similar dunks for the other side, eg. "I thought Democrats were for bodily autonomy" (with regards to vaccine mandates/passports) or "I thought liberals were for free speech" (with regards to cancel culture).
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#70What a surprise, IIRC in Hong Kong there was a platform that was fully decentralized. HK protesters used it on their phones during their uprising and China could not block it. Maybe it is time people move to that. Sadly I forgot its name or where to get it. Of course the app stores could block that too. There is always USENET I guess. I wonder if there are apps on Cell Phones that can access USENET and format the pos…
Anything that is P2P E2EE is hard to block by utilizing traditional measures. Personally I use and trust Tox. If you also want anonimity you can pair it with tor.