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Relevant comment from some months ago [1]. Personally I find that sticking to distros backed by companies or very large communities is just easier in the long term (Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora/Arch). [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46092225
On desktops and servers yeah. Bazzite was a bit of a special case as it was catered to handheld devices. So it did have that going for it. A one stop install that just supported everything on these devices from the start.
I guess the good thing about Bazzite, CachyOS, Omarchy and what have you, is that it brings new users to Linux. I would still like to see most users pick established distros, as contributions there have a higher impact on the ecosystem. But self-named gamers are probably harder to reason with.
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> Also there like 20 competing ways to install packages now. Used to just be apt This is very incorrect. There's been far more for 35+ years * apt/.deb * yum(dnf)/.rpm * Tarballs * Ports trees * Flatpak * Snap * Etc, etc, etc
Flatpak and Snap are new to me, and that's the annoyance. Like I get if there's some technical advantage to a snap, but apt can install snaps too. Also idk what .appimage is. rpm was a thing that existed but wasn't a Mint way of installing. Tar, yes. I can see why you'd consider a tar a package, but I was thinking of things actually designed for packages, and tar isn't really an extra thing to learn and deal with. Po…
These were designed to solve different problems.
PS - Just avoid snap. Fuck snap. All my homies hate snap.
Flatpak otoh is software basically delivered in a container with some security restrictions. It works great, but you may want a GUI problem called "flatseal" to enable access to certain parts of the host filesystem, device access, etc depending on specifics of what the particular application is supposed to do. That's a bit of a security boundary (good).
Flatpak does solve several big issues with the minor and only occasional need to use flatseal to enable access to say something in /proc /dev etc
Snap happened in 2014
Flatpak in 2015
So you've got about 10 years of catch-up ;)
Glad I decided not to stick with Bazzite. I gave it a try a few months ago and had issues with Bazaar crashing (not at all low end hardware btw). If the primary method to install software was that broken on a fresh install, there was no way I was going to trust the OS at all, no matter how many people on YouTube and HN talked about how amazing it is.
What alternative did you switch to?
Sometimes I feel like Discord as been nothing but a bane on OSS. A chat is inherently less searchable than a wiki/forum/documentation, and those sources are often readable without needing to authenticate, which meant that you could find an answer through Google and such. Most project now don't bother with publicly readable and archivable (and so offline viewable) information sources and just rely on Discord. This lea…
I didn't want to ask something and interacting in pseudo-realtime with another human being (that could potentionally laugh at me for asking a n00b question).
News groups were a little better for this, but the real progress was when you could search them or later read the answer in Stack Overflow. And the final step here is a LLM agent that has a web/doc search tool and can answer more difficult questions.
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was publicly being rude to the point of making other contributors leave (even after being asked to stop) and at least one case of using a slur they said it themselves in this post > Yes, I know I am hard to work with. Yes, I know that I pushed certain OSS contributors away. generally the kind of person that gives open source a bad reputation, you can be critical or anti-social without being an asshole
what about linus torvalds
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was publicly being rude to the point of making other contributors leave (even after being asked to stop) and at least one case of using a slur they said it themselves in this post > Yes, I know I am hard to work with. Yes, I know that I pushed certain OSS contributors away. generally the kind of person that gives open source a bad reputation, you can be critical or anti-social without being an asshole
what about linus torvalds
Bazzite made it so easy to switch from windows. I first tried cachyos but bazzite’s gamemode worked perfectly from the start, hdr and vrr included, on nvidia. Turned an expensive PC into an expensive console and made me so happy. Just the fact I can sleep the system mid-game and resume is magic! Guess I gotta go back to cachy and try again. Bummer
Why? Because some guy was pushed out of the friend group?
You like me for my (always right) conspiratorial takes I got another one: Look, follow the money, Microsoft knows Windows 11 on handhelds is a dumpster fire right now, and they are not ready to drop their own "Xbox Portable" yet So how do they keep the market from moving to the alternative SteamOS/Valve? They trojan horse the "alternative" Think about it: Bazzite pops up, gains massive community "trust", every tradit…
I understand there's been drama, and someone walked away or was pushed out. I don't quite care enough to understand it all or point at guilty parties. However, my current understanding is that the project remains active, so titling this article "Post Mortem" feels a bit like it's done in bad faith as it's usually applied to projects that are over. It's certainly what I immediately assumed made it newsworthy.