Is there a readable link to this article? The workarounds posted in this thread so far seem all to have stopped working.
This still works for me
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46887565
Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems
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Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would argue that the success has more to do with DevDiv being the strongest technical organization at MS than its provenance.
Until they messed up the whole UWP / WinRT developer experience in Visual Studio. Also VS 2026 was released with a hard milestone, thus while there is a new settings experience, many options show a dialog from VS 2022, because the new UI is still not implemented for the new experience. Note that most organisations have to pay for Visual Studio licenses, and get rewarded with such quality. Slop has also arrived into D…
I think after the failure of Metro, I think Microsoft gave up on native apps entirely and now the story is web or Electron.
Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Until they messed up the whole UWP / WinRT developer experience in Visual Studio. Also VS 2026 was released with a hard milestone, thus while there is a new settings experience, many options show a dialog from VS 2022, because the new UI is still not implemented for the new experience. Note that most organisations have to pay for Visual Studio licenses, and get rewarded with such quality. Slop has also arrived into D…
I think after the failure of Metro, I think Microsoft gave up on native apps entirely and now the story is web or Electron.
It appears the problem is more deep than that.
From what I could infer from some community talks, podcasts and so, I would assert that nowadays they have the problem new hires have been educated in UNIX like OSes and Web.
Thus Windows team gets lots of folks that never coded anything for Windows, and management instead of having proper trainings in place, just goes with Webview2 and Electron all over the place.
I might be wrong, this is more my perception than anything else.
Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems
#64.
x=AA1VBKdf
{ echo "";
(printf 'GET /content/view/v2/Detail/en-in/'$x' HTTP/1.0\r\n'
printf 'Host: assets.msn.com\r\n\r\n') \
|busybox ssl_client assets.msn.com \
|grep -o ".\*
"|tr -d '\134'; } > 1.htm
firefox ./1.htm
and with href attribute; 1.htm can be viewed in _any_ browser, no matter how old or unpopular, firefox is just one example
Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems
#65Microsoft's fumble here is pretty spectacular. Back in early 2023, the state of google search was abysmal (despite that their leaders insisted it wasn't, it had become nearly unusable for me and I don't think was that unfounded of an opinion). Microsoft rolled out a new version of bing, which became bing chat - search worked for me again for a very brief window of time. They could have pounced on this opportunity to…
It cost them (as a guess) -1T of market cap..
In other words they still got rewarded by the market despite all the missteps. I don’t agree with this reality but here we are.
Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think after the failure of Metro, I think Microsoft gave up on native apps entirely and now the story is web or Electron.
It appears the problem is more deep than that. From what I could infer from some community talks, podcasts and so, I would assert that nowadays they have the problem new hires have been educated in UNIX like OSes and Web. Thus Windows team gets lots of folks that never coded anything for Windows, and management instead of having proper trainings in place, just goes with Webview2 and Electron all over the place. I mig…
> nowadays they have the problem new hires have been educated in UNIX like OSes and Web.
So, in other words, the kids grow up learning and using Linux, right?
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#67Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems
#68Is there a readable link to this article? The workarounds posted in this thread so far seem all to have stopped working.
For whatever reason that title has reverted to the original
Microsoft's Pivotal AI Product Is Running into Big Problems
...maybe to not imply copilot is having any kind of technical problems
Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems
#69The 3.3% paid conversion is not great. Believe it or not, the Recon Analytics trend is actually worse primary usage among Copilot subscribers dropped from 18.8% to 11.5% since July while Gemini climbed past it. People who paid are leaving. That's a churn problem. The tell is buried in the article: workers who have access to Copilot, ChatGPT, and Gemini side by side choose ChatGPT and Gemini at higher rates. Some comp…
> growth is "unlike anything we've seen before"
This says nothing about where the growth is going
Re: Microsoft's Copilot chatbot is running into problems
#70The biggest issue I see is Microsoft's entire mentality around AI adoption that focuses more on "getting the numbers up" then actually delivering a product people want to use. Most of the announcements I hear about Copilot, it's always how they've integrated it into some other piece of software or cut a deal with yet another vendor to add it to that vendors product offering. On the surface there's nothing wrong with…
The products they are delivering remain somewhat poorly promoted. Designer is more than an LLM grafted to a text field. https://designer.microsoft.com/ If you go to microsoft.com, which link at the top would you click to get to Designer?
> Designer is more than an LLM grafted to a text field. https://designer.microsoft.com/
It's an AI image generator. There's thousands of tools that do this exact thing, and it seems their only "benefit" is infesting search engine image results with their horrible low-quality output.
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On a related note, here's another great LLM feature Microsoft seemingly failed to promote: instead of returning bits of page content or the description meta tag, the Bing API now gives you utter slop[0] for website descriptions!
[0]: https://old.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/1pomrdg/aigener...