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FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Can a hacked phone (such as one that was not in Lockdown Mode at one point in time) persist in a hacked state?

Obviously, the theoretical answer is yes, given an advanced-enough exploit. But let's say Apple is unaware of a specific rootkit. If each OS update is a wave, is the installed exploit more like a rowboat or a frigate? Will it likely be defeated accidentally by minor OS changes, or is it likely to endure?

This answer is actionable. If exploits are rowboats, installing developer OS betas might be security-enhancing: the exploit might break before the exploiters have a chance to update it.

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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So in america, they can force you to use a biometric but they can't compel you to reveal your password? I mean, i agree with you, but its a really weird line in the sand to draw

> So in america, they can force you to use a biometric but they can't compel you to reveal your password? I don't get it, touching finger is easy, but how do you compel someone to reveal their password?

Tell us the password or we throw you in jail, shoot you, etc. The legal system is always ultimately backed by the state's monopoly on violence.

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Both of your comments here, posted just one minute apart yet with completely different content, reek of LLM output.

People probably didn't see the other post, but both posts are several paragraphs and posted the same minute. No human would do that. Its also a new account that only posted these two posts.

Old account, fresh comments - to make it more clear. Freaky.

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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With the US descending more and more into fascism (as this case highlights yet again), I wonder what will happen to these features in the future. Especially now that the tech moguls of silicon valley stopped standing up to Trump and instead started kissing his ass. Tim Cook in particular seems to be the kind of person that rather is on the rich side of history than the right side. What if the administration realizes they can easily make Apple et al. give up their users by threatening their profits with tariffs and taxes?

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Takeaway is to not enable biometric unlock if you are concerned about your data being accessed by authorities.

This has long been true. In a pinch you can mash the power button 5+ times to require a key code at next unlock.

Also, on iPhone, if you have face ID turned on, you can hold power+volume down (may differ depending on model) to force a passcode.

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Does anyone know if iOS in lockdown mode stops syncing mail, imessage, call history etc to your other apple devices? I am wondering if reporter's stuff was all synced to the non lockdown MacBook from the iPhone

They usually ask you to enable lockdown mode on all your devices for advanced protection, even though you can skip it if you want.

Yeah.

This reporter very likely knew who she was dealing with. For users like her, everything is likely locked down and she probably didn't do much sharing.

I'm thinking that, to her, her sources would be probably one of the most important things in her life to protect.

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So in america, they can force you to use a biometric but they can't compel you to reveal your password? I mean, i agree with you, but its a really weird line in the sand to draw

> So in america, they can force you to use a biometric but they can't compel you to reveal your password? I don't get it, touching finger is easy, but how do you compel someone to reveal their password?

Depending on the country and the willingness to comply with legal norms somewhere between putting you in prison until you give it up and hitting you with a stick until you give it up.

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Serious question: What are the "valid concerns" about people securing their computing devices against third parties?

I get so annoyed by this Socratic line of questioning because it’s extremely obvious. Terrorist has plans and contacts on laptop/phone. Society has a very reasonable interest in that information. But of course there is the rational counter argument of “the government designates who is a terrorist”, and the Trump admin has gleefully flouted norms around that designation endangering rule of law. So all of us are adults…

The better rational counter argument is that "privacy is a human right enshrined in international law". Society has zero business knowing anyone's private communications, whether or not that person is a terrorist. There is nothing natural about being unable to talk to people privately without your speech being recorded for millions of people to view forever. Moreover, giving society absolute access to private communications is a short road to absolute dystopia as government uses it to completely wipe out all dissent, execute all the Jews or whatever arbitrary enemy of the state they decide on, etc.

You do not get to dispense with human rights because terrorists use them too. Terrorists use knives, cars, computers, phones, clothes... where will we be if we take away everything because we have a vested interested in denying anything a terrorist might take advantage of?

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