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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do they hope to find, specifically ? Who knows, but maybe the prosecutors have a better awareness of specifics than us HN commenters who have not been involved in the investigation. What may they find, hypothetically? Who knows, but maybe an internal email saying, for instance, 'Management says keep the nude photo functionality, just hide it behind a feature flag' , or maybe 'Great idea to keep a backup of the i…

Or “regulators don't understand the technology; short of turning it off entirely, there's nothing we can do to prevent it entirely, and the costs involved in attempting to reduce it are much greater than the likely fine, especially given that we're likely to receive such a fine anyway.”

They could shut it off out of a sense of decency and respect, wtf kind of defense is this?

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

#62

> Prosecutors say they are now investigating whether X has broken the law across multiple areas. This step could come before a police raid. This looks like plain political pressure. No lives were saved, and no crime was prevented by harassing local workers.

> This looks like plain political pressure. No lives were saved, and no crime was prevented by harassing local workers. The company made and released a tool with seemingly no guard-rails, which was used en masse to generate deepfakes and child pornography.

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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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post #26
post #11

I suppose those are the offices from SpaceX now that they merged.

So France is raiding offices of US military contractor?

Even if it is, being affiliated with the US military doesn't make you immune to local laws.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/us...

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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post #26
post #11

I suppose those are the offices from SpaceX now that they merged.

So France is raiding offices of US military contractor?

I know it's hard to grasp for you. But in France, french laws and jurisdiction applies, not those of the United States

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't mention grok?

Sure does. Twice. E.g. Musk's social media platform has recently been subject to intense scrutiny over sexualised images generated and edited on the site using its AI tool Grok.

CTRL-F "grok": 0/0 found

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

#67
post #9

Interesting. This is basically the second enforcement on speech / images that France has done - first was Pavel Durov @ Telegram. He eventually made changes in Telegram's moderation infrastructure and I think was allowed to leave France sometime last year. I don't love heavy-handed enforcement on speech issues, but I do really like a heterogenous cultural situation, so I think it's interesting and probably to the ove…

>but I do really like a heterogenous cultural situation, so I think it's interesting and probably to the overall good to have a country pushing on these matters very hard Censorship increases homogeneity, because it reduces the amount of ideas and opinions that are allowed to be expressed. The only resilience that comes from restricting people's speech is resilience of the people in power.

This is precisely the point of the comment you are replying to: a balance has to be found and enforced.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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post #66
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure does. Twice. E.g. Musk's social media platform has recently been subject to intense scrutiny over sexualised images generated and edited on the site using its AI tool Grok.

CTRL-F "grok": 0/0 found

I found 8 mentions.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To my knowledge Musk asked to go but never actually went. Clinton, however, went a dozen or so times with Epstein on his private jet? Has the latest release changed that narrative?

Yes. He went at least once in 2012, then asked to go again in 2013 and Epstein refused.

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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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post #9

Interesting. This is basically the second enforcement on speech / images that France has done - first was Pavel Durov @ Telegram. He eventually made changes in Telegram's moderation infrastructure and I think was allowed to leave France sometime last year. I don't love heavy-handed enforcement on speech issues, but I do really like a heterogenous cultural situation, so I think it's interesting and probably to the ove…

>but I do really like a heterogenous cultural situation, so I think it's interesting and probably to the overall good to have a country pushing on these matters very hard Censorship increases homogeneity, because it reduces the amount of ideas and opinions that are allowed to be expressed. The only resilience that comes from restricting people's speech is resilience of the people in power.

I really don't see reasonable enforcement of CSAM laws as a restriction on "diversity of thought".
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