I'm curious, outside of AI enthusiasts have people found value with using Clawdbot, and if so, what are they doing with it? From my perspective it seems like the people legitimately busy enough that they actually need an AI assistant are also people with enough responsibilities that they have to be very careful about letting something act on their behalf with minimal supervision. It seems like that sort of person cou…
1-Click RCE to steal your Moltbot data and keys
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
yeah fair, but “documented” isn’t really a mitigation... most people are gonna run defaults, so defaults basically are the security model imo
I'm not saying that "well we stated that our tool is designed as an RCE exploit" is, uh, better
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
haha yea “are you sure?” doesn’t work when the agent’s action space is huge and incredibly opaque
The true "AI" agent fan probably is sure, though.
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#64Thinking about this more .. given all the AI generated code being put into production these days (I routinely see posts of anthropic and others boast how much code is being written by AI). I can see it being much, much harder to review all the code being written by AIs. It makes a lot of sense to use an AI system to find vulnerabilities that humans don't have time to catch.
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#65Apart from the actual exploit, it is intriguing to see how a security researcher can leverage an AI tool to give them an asymmetric advantage to the actual developers of the code. Devs are pretty focused on their own subsystem and it would take serendipity or a ton of experience to be able to spot such patterns. Thinking about this more .. given all the AI generated code being put into production these days (I routin…
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#66I rushed out nono.sh (the opposite of yolo!) in response to this and its already negated a few gateway attacks. It uses kernel-level security primitives (Landlock on Linux, Seatbelt on macOS) to create sandboxes where unauthorized operations are structurally impossible. API keys are also stored in apples secure enclave (or the kernel keyring in linux) , and injected at run time and zeroized from memory after use. The…
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#67I mean: there are literally people spending $200 and more per month to have their personal, a bit schizophrenic, assistant engage moreover in conspicuous consumption for them.
Now as to my take on it: I think energy, when it comes to 8 billion humans, is basically infinite so I think it's only a matter of converting enough of that energy that either is or reaches our planet into a usable form. So I don't mind energy consumption.
But it'd be nice if could we at least have those who use AI not being hypocrites and stop criticizing Bitcoin mining and ICE cars? (by ICE I mean "Internal Combustion Engine" in case you thought I was talking about other kind of cars)
From now on you're only allowed to criticize ICE cars and Bitcoin mining if you don't use AI.
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#68So many people are giving keys to the kingdom to this thing. What is happening with humanity?
Humanity is the same it's always been. Some people are just inherently curious despite the obvious dangers. Also, if you think about it, billions of people aren't running Moltbot at all.
Re: 1-Click RCE to steal your Moltbot data and keys
#69Apart from the actual exploit, it is intriguing to see how a security researcher can leverage an AI tool to give them an asymmetric advantage to the actual developers of the code. Devs are pretty focused on their own subsystem and it would take serendipity or a ton of experience to be able to spot such patterns. Thinking about this more .. given all the AI generated code being put into production these days (I routin…
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the old days we just call that arbitrary code execution. And these AI people just act as if that's never a problem.
If running Moltbot makes me an “AI person”, you just met one that thinks that it is one.