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Re: Procedures for Repair of Potholes in Asphalt-Surfaced Pavements

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Post by gucci-on-fleek »

ceejayoz wrote: post #3
OgsyedIE wrote: post #2

As an aside, why do DoT pdfs have such gigantic margins/padding around the text content?

It allows note taking and corrections on drafts. Same deal with things like SCOTUS opinions. (Random example: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-624_b07d.pdf )

> Same deal with things like SCOTUS opinions. (Random example: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-624_b07d.pdf)

I don't think that that's quite right. SCOTUS opinions do indeed use a narrow text size (4 1/8" by 7 1/8" [0]), but that's because they're designed to be printed on unusually narrow paper (6 1/8" by 9 1/4" [0]), not to leave room for taking notes. This paper size actually only leaves 1" margins on either side, which leaves less room for taking notes than most other documents.

[0]: https://www.supremecourt.gov/filingandrules/2023RulesoftheCo...

Re: Procedures for Repair of Potholes in Asphalt-Surfaced Pavements

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Post by ceejayoz »

gucci-on-fleek wrote: post #61
ceejayoz wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It allows note taking and corrections on drafts. Same deal with things like SCOTUS opinions. (Random example: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-624_b07d.pdf )

> Same deal with things like SCOTUS opinions. (Random example: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-624_b07d.pdf ) I don't think that that's quite right. SCOTUS opinions do indeed use a narrow text size (4 1/8" by 7 1/8" [0]), but that's because they're designed to be printed on unusually narrow paper (6 1/8" by 9 1/4" [0]), not to leave room for taking notes. This paper size actually only leaves 1" margins…

When the SCOTUS justices and staffers are marking up drafts, they’re likely using regular old letter sized paper.

That they can lop those margins off in the final printing that goes in a bound book is just saving a bunch of paper.

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Post by zdragnar »

quickthrowman wrote: post #56
zdragnar wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, GAF / Building Materials Manufacturing LLC: https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-business/minneapolis-ro...

I understand that, I was pointing out that another asphalt shingle plant in Minneapolis is still operating despite the CO2 tax.

That's nice, but my response was to demonstrate that there are in fact people who think there's post petroleum industry, or at least desire it, not that none are foolish enough to stick around.

The original tax passed by the council, and overriding the mayor's veto was 90 times the current one at $452 a ton versus the current $5. The only reason for the drop was that the original couldn't possibly survive a challenge in court.

The environmental group celebrating the GAF closure is also real, and would likely celebrate Owens closing too.

Re: Procedures for Repair of Potholes in Asphalt-Surfaced Pavements

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Post by ultrarunner »

idiotsecant wrote: post #46
ultrarunner wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The local obscenely named utility company dug in our road a few years ago, necessitating a large patch. They proceeded to drive through their patch as they left. The tire dents & ridges are still there years later. You're right, of course, but I think you may be overestimating the concern patch crews give to their craft.

That's ... How you compact a patch. Anyhow, it doesn't matter how much care they put into the job, if the substrate fails the road fails. Simple as that. Patches are temporary fixes.

Eh, maybe I didn't describe it well. We're talking 1 lane wide, maybe 80 ft long. Dually tire path through the patch. Indented, with the displaced material ridged up along the side, diagonal across the lane. It yanks my motorcycle tire sideways if I hit it, and it's a decent bump in a car. If that's… how you compact it, we need new standards.

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Post by Perz1val »

0xffff2 wrote: post #32
Perz1val wrote: post #26

Does anyone know what is a post oil industry asphalt strategy? Do we have stockpiles till the end of time already?

Does anyone expect there will be a post oil industry? I would assume (with not particular knowledge on the subject mind) that once we wind down oil use for fuel and to some extent plastics, there will be enough oil in the ground to support enough extraction for asphalt and other currently trivial uses indefinitely.

Afaik, (extremely simplifying) refineries split crude oil into fractions; we burn lighter hydrocarbons as fuel, make plastics out of the middle/heavy parts and what's left in the pot are some heavy, dirty remains that we figured make good roads instead of being thrown out.

We've already hit the point that electric cars are cheaper to operate, yet photovoltaic prices keep falling. Even equipment like electric excavators is now a thing. Batteries keep improving. It'll compound to smaller and smaller fuel, thus oil needs, so there will be less refining, thus less asphalt.

The assumption wasn't that that there will be no oil extraction, it was that there might be a future without tons of almost free road material. But I have zero expertise in oil macroeconomics, the question might've been stupid, I don't know that, haha

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Post by bigbuppo »

dripdry45 wrote: post #45
andyjohnson0 wrote: post #33

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Luxury! We used to dream of open pits. All we ever had were craters filled with broken glass and burning petrol. And surrounded by rabid alligators.

‘Course where i grew up we had it ‘ard. Aye… We’d get woken up 2 o’clock in the mornin’ after sleeping in a road crater filled with sulphuric acid, race down the street naked in the dead o’ winter to distract the hungry velociraptors while one of us used a dull butter knife to chop off a limb we’d throw into the road hole so the steamroller could come by, flatten it to patch the hole, then use the stump to tamp the e…

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