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Re: Direct Current Data Centers

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

gruez wrote: post #60
Joel_Mckay wrote: post #48

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Do they get tax breaks, subsidy, loan deals, and naive non-voting investor money? My point was these folks never gamble with their own cash from revenue. It is always the tax payer that ends up holding the gamblers debts. =3 https://www.usdebtclock.org/

>Do they get tax breaks The government also has "tax breaks" for certain foods and my 401k. Does that make my evening meal and retirement plan "state money funded" as well? > loan deals, and naive non-voting investor money? Well?

Indeed, every US child is now born -$108,000 in national debt due to the behavior of their parents.

The classic boondoggle state funded "big" projects have bankrupted many economies. Inflation corrected, people can expect $0.84 back for every dollar they now put into retirement plans. =3

Re: Direct Current Data Centers

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

boxed wrote: post #50
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #49

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Okay, that's great. LLMs offer no benefit though.

Ok, let's take it this way: What evidence could convince you there is some benefit?

Well, what would those benefits be? I genuinely don't see what it's useful for.

From what I've seen, people spend an inordinate amount of time typing in "prompts", and the chatbot goes off and pretends to generate some code, and then the people have to work out what's wrong with it and type in another prompt.

So it looks like the humans get to do all the slow, time-consuming drudge work of typing stuff in and debugging the result, but the chatbot does the interesting part.

Why would I voluntarily just do the drudge work?

Re: Direct Current Data Centers

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Post by boulos »

jabl wrote: post #52

To comment on using direct current rather than alternating current, at least NVIDIA is working on 800VDC: https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-800-v-hvdc-architec... https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/building-the-800-vdc-ecosy... More generally, a bunch of the electrical industry heavyweights are involved in a standard for DC microgrids called Current/OS: https://currentos.org/ There are certainly advantages to D…

IIRC, Google contributed +-400 racks last year to Open Compute: https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/systems/enabling-1-mw-i...

Re: Direct Current Data Centers

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Post by boxed »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #62
boxed wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, let's take it this way: What evidence could convince you there is some benefit?

Well, what would those benefits be? I genuinely don't see what it's useful for. From what I've seen, people spend an inordinate amount of time typing in "prompts", and the chatbot goes off and pretends to generate some code, and then the people have to work out what's wrong with it and type in another prompt. So it looks like the humans get to do all the slow, time-consuming drudge work of typing stuff in and debuggi…

Yea ok, I see. That's not how I use Claude Code for sure. I can write or even speak fairly small sentences and it goes and does pretty big changes, and for some things I know it can do it correctly.

I think the interesting and useful part of the job is coming up with ideas to try and the design and getting the result. Typing code isn't really the fun part.

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