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Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by IshKebab »

embedding-shape wrote: post #35
arjie wrote: post #13

This is sad. I loved paying by palm at Whole Foods because it was definitely the fastest way to do things. You just scanned and you were out. Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime and then tap my watch and select the right credit card (palm scan always used my groceries card). Ah well, perhaps adoption was low.

> Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime Haven't the (big) supermarkets in the US adopted the whole "scan and go" thing that lots of countries in Europe have had for a long time? (maybe more than a decade at this point I think) When I go to the supermarket, right after the entrance, I pick up a scanner, then as I pick stuff, I scan them and pack them. Then when I'm done, you scan a code, give back t…

To be fair with scan & go you still have to scan your membership card which would be the equivalent of typing in your phone number.

But most retail tech in the US is suuuuper backwards. They were still signing credit card receipts until very recently. The way you pay for petrol/gas is bonkers.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by alex_young »

embedding-shape wrote: post #56
alex_young wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha no. US commerce improvements tend to trail EU by a decade. We just got tap to pay a couple of years ago. People still pass bits of paper with signatures on them to pay each other for stuff.

> We just got tap to pay a couple of years ago You mean NFC payments? :| Oh, and checks too? I guess things were very different than my assumption, interesting thing to have learned today. Thanks!

I mean the physical credit cards didn’t have tap to pay most of the time until very recently. NFC has been around for a long time.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by embedding-shape »

alex_young wrote: post #62
embedding-shape wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We just got tap to pay a couple of years ago You mean NFC payments? :| Oh, and checks too? I guess things were very different than my assumption, interesting thing to have learned today. Thanks!

I mean the physical credit cards didn’t have tap to pay most of the time until very recently. NFC has been around for a long time.

> I mean the physical credit cards didn’t have tap to pay most of the time until very recently

I think a couple of years before COVID hit most cards had it, but many stores didn't support it. But once COVID came and visited, all stores got new TPVs that could read NFC very quickly.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by embedding-shape »

IshKebab wrote: post #61
embedding-shape wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Now I've got to slowly type in my phone number for Prime Haven't the (big) supermarkets in the US adopted the whole "scan and go" thing that lots of countries in Europe have had for a long time? (maybe more than a decade at this point I think) When I go to the supermarket, right after the entrance, I pick up a scanner, then as I pick stuff, I scan them and pack them. Then when I'm done, you scan a code, give back t…

To be fair with scan & go you still have to scan your membership card which would be the equivalent of typing in your phone number. But most retail tech in the US is suuuuper backwards. They were still signing credit card receipts until very recently. The way you pay for petrol/gas is bonkers.

> The way you pay for petrol/gas is bonkers.

Wait, what do you mean?

This is how it works for us: I go to the gas station, the pumps are locked by default, I await eye-contact with the person inside, wave at them, they unlock the pump, I pump the petrol, then I go in and pay.

I'm guessing it's radically different than that and involves signing papers somehow? Almost afraid to ask.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by nickorlow »

Bluecobra wrote: post #7
radicalethics wrote: post #3

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I think they are going all in on Alexa+ and cutting many other teams (speaking fully as an outsider). The new Echo Dot Max makes controlling your TV/Browsing youtube with natural language really nice (same for exploring Amazon Music - Spotify needs to catch up with this fast). Subscriptions for AI in the living room is what they are first movers of at the moment.

How does that compare with Google? I tried updating my Google Mini smart speakers to have Gemini and it still seems dumb as a box of rocks.

Google update sucks. Not only is it slower + generally dumber, but their AI alignment has made it refuse to answer very normal questions (I got scolded by my speaker for asking about the hours of the nearest liquor store)

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by nickorlow »

Helithumper wrote: post #57

I found the palm payment at Whole Foods to be very convenient for the same reason as others in this thread. The steps without using Amazon One were * open the amazon app * open the checkout thing * click the QR code button * click the amazon QR code * Scan it * Open Apple Wallet * Pay I hope that they will at least add the amazon QR code to apple wallet to make payment faster in store. That or something to make payme…

Can they not just associate your debit/credit card w/ your account?

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by davidmurphy »

Helithumper wrote: post #57

I found the palm payment at Whole Foods to be very convenient for the same reason as others in this thread. The steps without using Amazon One were * open the amazon app * open the checkout thing * click the QR code button * click the amazon QR code * Scan it * Open Apple Wallet * Pay I hope that they will at least add the amazon QR code to apple wallet to make payment faster in store. That or something to make payme…

download the Whole Foods app. It solely exists to display the QR code on startup.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

ColinWright wrote: post #15

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No, apparently eu-west-1 went castors up earlier. I wouldn't be surprised if there was something related to this error.

The site came back around eu-west-1 which, while correlation isn't causation, it does look meaningfully in causation's direction and wiggle an eyebrow suggestively.

Re: Amazon One palm authentication discontinued

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

Helithumper wrote: post #57

I found the palm payment at Whole Foods to be very convenient for the same reason as others in this thread. The steps without using Amazon One were * open the amazon app * open the checkout thing * click the QR code button * click the amazon QR code * Scan it * Open Apple Wallet * Pay I hope that they will at least add the amazon QR code to apple wallet to make payment faster in store. That or something to make payme…

Walk me through it.

Why do you have all these steps to pay at a supermarket?

When I am here in the UK, I wave my phone over the card reader, it goes "Pling!" and that's my stuff paid for.

Of course, it's different elsewhere.

When I am over in Austria, I wave my phone over the card reader, it goes "Pling!" and that's my stuff paid for, but this time in Euros, at the going exchange rate.

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