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Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't
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Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't
#62The developer just "cleaned up the code comments", i.e. they removed all TODOs from the code: https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd... Professionalism at its finest!
Here's the post on LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nick-kuntz-61551869_building-...
Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't
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The outrageous part of this is nowhere in the blog post or the repository indicates it's vibe coded garbage (hopefully I didn't miss it?). You expect some level of bullshit in AI company's latest AI vibe coding announcements. This can be mistaken for a classical blog post. Although the tell is obvious if you spent one second looking at https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers . That misaligned ASCII diagram, damn…
> A production-grade Matrix homeserver implementation It's getting outright frustrating to deal with this. Fine, random hype-men gets hyped about stuff and tweets about it, doesn't mind me too much. Huge companies who used to have a lot of good will putting out stuff like this, seemingly with absolutely zero reviews before hitting publish? What are they doing? Have everyone decided to just give up and give in to the…
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Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't
#64The developer just "cleaned up the code comments", i.e. they removed all TODOs from the code: https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd... Professionalism at its finest!
Reminds me of Cloudflare's OAuth library for Workers. >Claude's output was thoroughly reviewed by Cloudflare engineers with careful attention paid to security >To emphasize, this is not "vibe coded". >Every line was thoroughly reviewed and cross-referenced with relevant RFCs, by security experts with previous experience with those RFCs. ...Some time later... https://github.com/advisories/GHSA-4pc9-x2fx-p7vj
What is the learning here? There were humans involved in every step.
Things built with security in mind are not invulnerable, human written or otherwise.
Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't
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The version that was live on GitHub the day they published their blog post was missing compilation instructions, didn't cleanly compile and didn't pass GitHub Actions CI. The project itself did compile most of the time it was being developed - the coding agents had been compiling it the whole time they were running on it. Shortly after the blog post they updated the GitHub repo with compilation instructions and it wo…
Also, didn't it use Servo crates? I don't think you can say 'from scratch' if 60% of the actual work is from an external lib. If I install an Arch Linux, I don't say I 'installed Linux from scratch'.
It used cssparser and html5ever from the Servo project, and it used the Taffy library for flexbox and CSS grid layout algorithms which isn't officially part of Servo but is used by Servo.
I'd estimate that's a lot less than 60% of the "actual work" though.
Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't
#66Embarrassing, coming from a company like Cloudfare
Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't
#67Honestly I like Cloudflare's CDN and DNS but beyond that I don't really trust much else from them. In the past though their blog has been one of the best in the space and the information has been pretty useful, almost being a gold standard for postmortems, but this seems especially bad. Definitely out of line compared to the rest of their posts. And with the recent Cursor debacle this doesn't help. I also don't reall…
I guess it depends on the author. Seems like it is the first post for this author, and given the reception, maybe the last one...
Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't
#68Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't
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Reminds me of Cloudflare's OAuth library for Workers. >Claude's output was thoroughly reviewed by Cloudflare engineers with careful attention paid to security >To emphasize, this is not "vibe coded". >Every line was thoroughly reviewed and cross-referenced with relevant RFCs, by security experts with previous experience with those RFCs. ...Some time later... https://github.com/advisories/GHSA-4pc9-x2fx-p7vj
What is the learning here? There were humans involved in every step. Things built with security in mind are not invulnerable, human written or otherwise.
This is especially true if the marketing team claims that humans were validating every step, but the actual humans did not exist or did no such thing.
If a marketer claims something, it is safe to assume the claim is at best 'technically true'. Only if an actual engineer backs the claim it can start to mean something.
Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't
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I believe it was basically a broken, non-functioning wrapper around Servo internals. That’s what I’d expect from a high schooler who says “i wrote a web browser”, but not what I’d expect from a multi-billion dollar corporation.
They aren't really a multi-billion dollar corporation. A lot of it is them just pumping up their valuation. Stuff like this proves that in a lot of ways.
They are running > 300 DC's...