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Re: Route leak incident on January 22, 2026

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Based on the number of times I've seen these posted about they seem quite frequent[0]. If I'm being honest, the entire BGP system seems to be very fragile with a massive blast radius. I get that it's super 'core' so it's hard to fix, and that it comes from a time when the Internet was more 'cooperative' (in the protocol sense of the word) but are there any attempts at a successor or is it impossible to do so fundamen…

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Re: Route leak incident on January 22, 2026

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a bunch of big tech companies started collaborating/colluding to implement this, we'd just have a bunch of people on HN decrying the "centralization" of the internet concentrated in the hands of a few. This is decentralization in action. You have to take the good with the bad.

there are definitely ways to make the bad much less bad

If "bad" is that things are only working 99.999% of the time, and every couple years someone borks their BGP config and fixes it in a few minutes, then bad sounds pretty good to me.

In large complex systems, perfection isn't really possible.

Re: Route leak incident on January 22, 2026

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That's like what, one major incident per month now, Nov 18, Dec 5, and now this one? I'll bet JGC can write his own ticket by now, but unretiring would be really bad optics. He's on the board though and still keeping a watchful eye. But a couple more of these and CFs reputation will be in the gutter.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/fail-small-resilience-plan/

Hm. Mixed feelings, I would like a more rigorous approach to this a lot better. CF is really too big to fail now, I've had absolutely no qualms about recommending CF but after the last couple of months I'm revising that until things are measurably better.

Your legacy is one of showing how to apply good engineering principles to complex problems at scale and I think CF is risking that reputation right now.

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