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> "It sounded so bizarre that there could be a mushroom out there causing fairytale-like visions reported across cultures and time," Domnauer says. Now I'm kinda curious whether fairy tales are the result of these visions or the other way around. Probably both.
> "It sounded so bizarre that there could be a mushroom out there causing fairytale-like visions reported across cultures and time," Domnauer says. Now I'm kinda curious whether fairy tales are the result of these visions or the other way around. Probably both.
It's generally accepted that the stories of fairies tied to specific locations across the UK and Ireland is due to the presence of magic mushrooms growing relatively close by.
The British isles do not have old mushroom foraging traditions (in particular, what mushroom foraging traditions there are, are younger than fairy stories). Without some solid oral tradition, going around sampling mushrooms looking for a high is very risky.
Even if there was a tradition, why would they be limited to only where particular mushrooms grew? They would surely be picked and transported then. For that matter, don't hallucinogenic mushroom varieties grow all over the British isles? Many mushrooms aren't very picky about climate.
In short I don't believe this at all.
Actually, Amanita Muscaria probably has the same alcaloid, as it induces too visions of small people watching you from the forest's bushes... Don't ask me how I know it.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226076639_Xiao_Ren_...
It would be interesting if it turned out that they are not hallucinations. The tiny people are real but for several hundred or maybe thousands of years have been slipping something into our food or water that makes it so we don't perceive them. The chemical in this mushroom temporarily neutralizes that.
All the advanced race would need to do is to prevent short/long term memory creation of certain things. Just set a rule to prevent caching of certain patterns, bob's your uncle they could live amongst us in peace.
But of course a hallucinogenic could circumvent those hacks but fundamentally altering memory generation and perception. So in theory the aliens could be really tiny little humanoids living amongst us and we're constantly adjusting to not crush them, but we just don't remember.
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It's generally accepted that the stories of fairies tied to specific locations across the UK and Ireland is due to the presence of magic mushrooms growing relatively close by.
Generally accepted by who? The British isles do not have old mushroom foraging traditions (in particular, what mushroom foraging traditions there are, are younger than fairy stories). Without some solid oral tradition, going around sampling mushrooms looking for a high is very risky. Even if there was a tradition, why would they be limited to only where particular mushrooms grew? They would surely be picked and trans…
The main point of the article is that they're psychedelic, but don't contain psilocybin as the active molecule.
In earlier centuries it doesn't seem unreasonable to allow the possibility of the mushroom ingester to describe their experience as visiting the fae realm, whether in the UK or otherwise - as an accidental occurence I don't know how else people from the past would be able to explain what they perceived to others?
It would be interesting if it turned out that they are not hallucinations. The tiny people are real but for several hundred or maybe thousands of years have been slipping something into our food or water that makes it so we don't perceive them. The chemical in this mushroom temporarily neutralizes that.
Let's say something had technology so far advanced we could only perceive it as magic - our electronic brains could easily be hacked from a distance. All the advanced race would need to do is to prevent short/long term memory creation of certain things. Just set a rule to prevent caching of certain patterns, bob's your uncle they could live amongst us in peace. But of course a hallucinogenic could circumvent those ha…
Actually, Amanita Muscaria probably has the same alcaloid, as it induces too visions of small people watching you from the forest's bushes... Don't ask me how I know it.
Do you know this from personal experience or after watching a "Hamilton's Pharmacopeia" episode or a similar documentary?
>Current tests suggest it is not likely related to any other known psychedelic compound. For one, the trips it produces are unusually long, commonly lasting 12 to 24 hours, and in some cases even causing hospital stays of up to a week. Plenty of common psychedelics have durations in excess of 12 hours. Some even in excess of 24 e.g. high doses of 2C-P. This may be a novel compound, but the duration is not necessarily…
Another example, this one deliriant and not psychedelic, is atropine/scopolamine, found in certain nightshades, such as deadly nightshade, mandrake, plants in the Datura genus, and trees in the Brugmansia genus. The chemical weapon QNB, also called BZ is another example of a long-acting deliriant. As far as classic psychedelics go, I've read mescaline (3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine) lasts really long.
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Generally accepted by who? The British isles do not have old mushroom foraging traditions (in particular, what mushroom foraging traditions there are, are younger than fairy stories). Without some solid oral tradition, going around sampling mushrooms looking for a high is very risky. Even if there was a tradition, why would they be limited to only where particular mushrooms grew? They would surely be picked and trans…
FWIW, mushroom rings are real, at least in the UK. They seemed to be affected by EMF, because I wandered past one centered directly centered under street power lines, I have no idea whether that's where a ley-line intersect it or not. I don't think they were psychedelic mushrooms though, but it was pretty cool seeing them growing in a large circle about 3-4m in diameter. The main point of the article is that they're…
Eating mushrooms without knowledge will kill you. Cultures either don't eat mushrooms, or they develop knowledge of what mushrooms are safe to eat and which ones kill you - or make you see elves. There's no world where people see elves but don't connect it to the mushrooms they ate 15 minutes ago. It's also not very plausible that they as a culture stopped going on elf trips, but remembered the elves and forgot what made you see them. In short there's just so many ways this is a bad theory.