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Re: 'This is sell America' – US dollar tumbles as globe flees US assets

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Post by surgical_fire »

StephenHerlihyy wrote: post #57
tharmas wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two things Canada is guilty of. 1) it spent far too little on its military 2) it trusted the Americans far too much by tying its economy so deeply with the USA. If you subtract the oil purchased by the USA, Canada has a trade surplus with the USA. A trade surplus that's mostly comprised of finished goods. Canada sells raw materials to the USA and buys finished goods from them. It is the United States that i…

The lack of public awareness is honestly the biggest issue. I’ve got nothing personally against Canada or the Canadian people. And I certainly don’t think Trump’s approach has benefitted the situation. But I also recognize that his grievance have a level of merit. I can critique a government without blaming a people, right? I disagree with how the Canadian government has been handling itself. I think there is a way t…

I don't think threats of annexation is something people just shrug off in a short amount of time.

The US has been burning bridges that may take a long time to rebuild, if ever.

"Countries argue", yes. But countries are made of people, and governments tend to be a product of that.

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Post by orwin »

StephenHerlihyy wrote: post #50
bryanlarsen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's pretty vague compared to concrete good ally behaviour like the arrest of Meng Wanzhou.

And then waiting 4 years to actually ban his company from operating in Canada.

China captured 2 Canadians as retaliation. Wanting to de-escalate and get them back seems pretty reasonable. Unless the US proposed a military operation to get them back?

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Post by defrost »

embedding-shape wrote: post #40
jdiaz97 wrote: post #3

Now on Truth Social, Trump is saying that NATO is the enemy, not Russia, not China. Well, now it makes sense why Putin has that picture of Trump.

Verbatim quotes, ~2 hours ago: > No single person, or President, has done more for NATO than President Donald J. Trump. If I didn’t come along, there would be no NATO right now!!! It would have been in the ash heap of History. Sad, but TRUE!!! President DJT > The whole problem we are having with criminals in our Country was caused by Sleepy Joe Biden and the Radical Left Thugs that surrounded the Resolution Desk in t…

This, and other recents diatribes, project overwhelming "Pop-pop's off his meds" vibes.

At what point, and how, does the US system pants up and bell the cat?

A bipartisan pysch assessment from 11 respected people across the political spectrum blind voting an opinion would likely be unanimous in diagnosis at this point.

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Post by robocat »

embedding-shape wrote: post #38
StephenHerlihyy wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> They are using the opportunity to enhance their own economy at the expense of the American people. I mean, isn't that what the country is for? If the country did actions not for it's own citizens and residents, what kind of country are you?

That comment and your reply are both zero-sum thinking.

Canada and the USA are both better off with a good trading relationship. Harder to see if you're looking for bad faith trading.

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Post by _zagj »

This reminds me of the articles about Canadian "snowbirds" selling their stateside pied-à-terre (due to tariffs and deteriorating cross-border relations), presenting it as if it were a bad thing for the average American that foreign ownership of housing was declining, and that the sellers were eager to quickly offload their asset--an asset long overvalued, in short supply, and increasingly out of reach of the average American.

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Post by fatbird »

StephenHerlihyy wrote: post #41
jorblumesea wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being a good ally isn't just doing entirely what the US says the should do. The US needs to coordinate responses to China and work with allies to come to a shared understanding. How the current administration operates is assuming these allied country are fiefdoms. The economic situation in Canada isn't great, and the US could make it stronger, but refuses to. The same feedback is largely true for most US allies. If y…

I have many complaints about Trump's handling of foreign policy. Don't mistake my tone for approval of his approach. He is needlessly aggressive and domineering. We have tried the carrot approach though. Coalition of the willing. By and large I would say our allies are spiritually willing but physically unable to. If we use Canada for example, I don't think they need to jump at every demand, but things like stopping…

You have a laundry list of complaints about Canada's action wrt the US. What would someone like you on Canada's side of the border offer in response, do you think?

All of these issues go back long before Trump, who has made things uniquely worse. But any two countries with as long (and tightly bound) a history as ours are going to have constant points of friction. Are you suggesting Canada is uniquely a "fake friend" in this equation?

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Post by treetalker »

embedding-shape wrote: post #40
jdiaz97 wrote: post #3

Now on Truth Social, Trump is saying that NATO is the enemy, not Russia, not China. Well, now it makes sense why Putin has that picture of Trump.

Verbatim quotes, ~2 hours ago: > No single person, or President, has done more for NATO than President Donald J. Trump. If I didn’t come along, there would be no NATO right now!!! It would have been in the ash heap of History. Sad, but TRUE!!! President DJT > The whole problem we are having with criminals in our Country was caused by Sleepy Joe Biden and the Radical Left Thugs that surrounded the Resolution Desk in t…

Next up will be that the dollar collapse and global economic meltdown are a "conjob" and "conspiracy of the radical left" — pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, aren't the emperor's clothes simply gorgeous?

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Post by mcphage »

StephenHerlihyy wrote: post #49
thomassmith65 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is 10 sentences long but lists not a single, specific example of Canada being a poor ally.

1) Multi-year delay in banning Huawei from 5G networks: https://www.ndp.ca/news/ndp-statement-huawei-ban-canadian-5g... Took Canada 4-years longer than the rest of the Five Eyes alliance to ban them, prompting the Biden administration to threaten to terminate the agreement. 2) NORAD/Ballistic missile defense (Not just NATO): https://canadiandefencereview.com/norad-modernization-closin... Canada chooses not to partici…

This is your evidence? This is meaningless. The problem is, you’re applying reasoning backwards. You’re starting with the assumption that Trump’s ramblings are justified, so you search for whatever you can find that supports his side, and thus conclude that this evidence is sufficient to justify his claims, because it’s all the evidence out there. Instead of actual reasoning, which would be to start with the question “are his claims justified?”, searching for evidence for and against, and realizing that these few articles in support are dwarfed by the hundreds of billion dollars in trade between the two countries.
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