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Re: Free Flag Icons

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These guys have bluntly copied woopra.com

You're right. It was a Friday evening, we got our blunts out, played some Afroman, and said "hey, we're going to stop doing exactly what we've been doing since 2006 and we're going to bluntly copied woopra.com". It's a shame we had to be exposed like this.

Re: Free Flag Icons

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post #21

What were the criteria for including some disputed states (South Ossetia, Somaliland) while excluding others (Transnistria, Azawad)?

When we made them we used this > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sovereign-state_flags and a bit of > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_unrecognized_stat...

Thanks for making these, but I wish you would have also acknowledged the sources in your LICENSE.txt.

As for the license itself -- even though I used to work on licensing and UI for Wikimedia Commons, I acknowledge this can be quite confusing, so I sympathize. I've rewritten this comment a couple of times already.

It's not clear to me if you can re-release everything under any single license. It's also unclear to me if you can assert copyright over the whole thing, as you must if you are going to use a CC license or the BSD-style license you used.

However, I would suggest that whatever you are doing, you should not arbitrarily reassign the work to a BSD license. They are not designed for graphics, since they require publication of the license wherever the graphic is used. Imagine if you wanted to use the icon on a postcard; according to the license you'd have to include the license text on the postcard. If you want these to be used widely Creative Commons Zero is much better... assuming you can assert copyright for the whole thing as a derivative work.

http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

The really pedantically correct thing would be to list the licenses for each and every flag, but I acknowledge that would be no fun at all, and as far as I know Wikimedia Commons doesn't have tools to make that easy with large collections.

Sorry for the legalese - I think you did a great thing here, I'm just trying to help you share it with others.

Re: Free Flag Icons

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For people saying "don't use flags", and "especially not for languages"... I totally agree in theory, but... In a lot of interfaces, having something visual helps a lot. Especially when you need to pick something from a list where you don't even know what language the user speaks! Obviously, you can present a text list like "English (American)", "Português (Brasil)", "አማርኛ", "贛語", but it can look kind of ugly, how do…

How is Esperanto classified?

Re: Free Flag Icons

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For people saying "don't use flags", and "especially not for languages"... I totally agree in theory, but... In a lot of interfaces, having something visual helps a lot. Especially when you need to pick something from a list where you don't even know what language the user speaks! Obviously, you can present a text list like "English (American)", "Português (Brasil)", "አማርኛ", "贛語", but it can look kind of ugly, how do…

If how to sort a text list is on your list of problems, you don't have a problem. As long as the order is consistent, users (in general) will be happy with it.

Re: Free Flag Icons

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I find selecting country via flags of a global map to not only be alot quicker than a drop down list, but also more intuative. As somebody who lives in Britian/United Kingdom, then selecting via a flag or mini world map is much easier. Reason being from my point of view is often there is no UK/British option and your slotted in as American English in some forms of language selection. Now if the application ror website wish's to do that behind the scene then fine, but with lists you tend not to have that mapping and on flags or a global map your none the wiser. Also educational value and easier upon all cultures that way, some might prefer there drop down lists on the right, some on the left so this avoids that. All in all it offers more positives as apposed to negatives over dropdown lists for country/flag selection.

So the option to have icons you can freely use without accidently stepping upoon somebodies IP can only be a good thing and counter any arguments about flag copyrights and images. Amazing how even the simplest common items can be copyrighted - swiss clock being one even Apple slipped up upon. So some free ones are always good.

Re: Free Flag Icons

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For people saying "don't use flags", and "especially not for languages"... I totally agree in theory, but... In a lot of interfaces, having something visual helps a lot. Especially when you need to pick something from a list where you don't even know what language the user speaks! Obviously, you can present a text list like "English (American)", "Português (Brasil)", "አማርኛ", "贛語", but it can look kind of ugly, how do…

How is Esperanto classified?

Why would you not simply use the Esperanto flag?

http://flagspot.net/flags/qy-eo.html

Re: Free Flag Icons

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree about aspect ratios, but we should expect rgb colors to be accurate.

If you check out the flat flags the colors are exact, obviously the styled ones have subtle shadowing etc, and are probably out by a very small margin.

I checked out Estonia from above and the colour doesn't match the examples on Wikipedia. I've also checked out the Australian flag, and it's eyeball-different - the blue in the real flag is closer to navy blue. The blue should be #002B7F, but a colour picker tells me that the 64x64 flat flag has a blue of #003399.

It's not a big problem in my opinion - no-one should be overly hung up about minor anomalies like that for web icons - but it's not true to say the colours are exact.

Re: Free Flag Icons

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When we made them we used this > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sovereign-state_flags and a bit of > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_unrecognized_stat...

Thanks for making these, but I wish you would have also acknowledged the sources in your LICENSE.txt. As for the license itself -- even though I used to work on licensing and UI for Wikimedia Commons, I acknowledge this can be quite confusing, so I sympathize. I've rewritten this comment a couple of times already. It's not clear to me if you can re-release everything under any single license. It's also unclear to me…

I'm curious, how did wikipedia get copyright over the designs of national flags? What right to they have to attribution?

Re: Free Flag Icons

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post #51
post #28

Using flags in your visual design can be tempting but in my experience it's a bad idea. The problem is that certain flags force you to "take sides" in political disputes that you likely aren't aware of and don't understand. You'll inadvertently make one side very angry with you, and you won't even really know what political statement you accidentally made. It's OK if you stick to flags you know but if you start tryin…

OK, I'll bite. Design is all about making decisions, which will invariably make person A happy and person B unhappy (for some values of A and B). Look at how many people are ranting this month about Apple's decision to remove X11.app from OS X, for example, even though you can download a newer version for free. If your goal in building software is to make every person on the planet satisfied, you are setting yourself…

> Or, you can pick a relevant ISO/UN/EU/... list, and say you're using that for country names and flags. That may or may not be biased, but it removes you from the decision. If somebody is so mad they refuse to use your program because they don't like an ISO/UN/EU list, I don't know how they got past the Time Zone Setup screen on their computer.

The UN/ISO list has Taiwan as "Taiwan, Province of China". Go look for that string in any operating system, app or on any website that is internationally popular - you won't find it. The ISO is not neutral, and the Time Zone Setup guys know this.

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