Embarrassing
I think we need a new English word because that doesn’t even begin to cover it.
I think the best way to describe it with modern terms would be "cringe as fuck"
Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's like saying sanctions will make N. Koreans or Russians rebel against their governments, and then wondering why none of them has done so, "are they cowards?". As if rebelling is so simple and not a life-changing thing...
You don't live in North Korea, not even anywhere close. If you don't want to live in a state like North Korea, you need to use the democratic means you still have to make your voice heard. I am tired of this lazy defeatism
Luckily since USA is close to N. Korea your statement holds true. Glad to be not American.
Curiously enough if you do a survey of who of Kim Jong-Un and Donald Trump would be more likely to throw a world-threatening tantrum.. I don't think Kim Jong-Un is going to win that survey.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
> DFW, Neal Stephenson, and Idiocracy seemed funny 25 years ago. Not so much now that they seem to have predicted where we have arrived. Idiocracy did not predict things accurately: in that movie the President acknowledges that he does not have all the answers and asks questions (and listens) to people he recognizes as knowing more from him. That is not the situation currently.
I have to go back to the source and confirm your analysis. The sheer mental incapacity of the individual cabinet members in the movie most closely matches this current administration than any other cabinet in history as I recall. Edit: maybe it's predicting the presidency a couple of terms down the line, when a well-meaning Theo Von becomes president. But the Theo Von of today is too smart already, it would have to b…
Theo Von has many dozens of characteristics that make him much better suited to be president than Trump
Re: Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub
#64The full text of the letter CC'd by Trump directly to multiple European governments: "Dear [Norwegian PM] Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect tha…
We really should share his writings/speeches more. The sanewashing of his mad ramblings or Truth social posts is omnipresent in media. Once you notice it, you see it everywhere.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
A local PTA has a "parent of the month" award. One month, a vain, vindictive, mentally unstable, and heavily armed parent who tirelessly lobbied for the award and lost begins physically threatening and menacing their neighbors, declaring that if they won't be recognized as the best parent, then by god they'll just take what they're owed until they feel they've gotten what is "psychologically needed for success." In t…
This analogy would work if 2025 were an isolated incident. But the award has been a joke for a very long time, if not actively harmful, and recent events make such a mockery of its founding premises that it's simply too much to bear. What if the "parent of the month" award were perpetually mired in controversy? I think it would be fair to reconsider the thing.
How is it actively harmful?
If I don’t get what I want from an event can I just make it controversial by yelling all the time to close it down?
You’re arguing that everyone should just give up to muggers
Re: Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub
#66The full text of the letter CC'd by Trump directly to multiple European governments: "Dear [Norwegian PM] Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect tha…
We really should share his writings/speeches more. The sanewashing of his mad ramblings or Truth social posts is omnipresent in media. Once you notice it, you see it everywhere.
I was pretty disgusted by the headline Axios used for it:
>Trump defiant as NATO rages over Greenland "blackmail" tariffs
Didn't even mention the absurdly juvenile, ahistorical "boats" argument. Ofc, Axios is the height of access journalism, so not really surprising.
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#67But just imagine how bad things would be right now if Kamala got in. We really dodged a bullet there, huh?
I mean, the liberals would all be at brunch, at least. I suppose it's "better" when the mask of destructive empires is firmly in place, because at least then they have to maintain some decorum when mass deporting folks. It does kind of suck, though, when you're in Ferguson, Occupy, at Standing Rock, protesting the second Iraq war, in the streets because the police murdered another of your fellow humans, because the f…
>But having read at least one or two books, it feels like, I dunno, folks who were actively stoked about Harris don't want -less- violence, they just want it done to folks they don't see...
The thing is you're choosing the violence of American imperialism to be done in your name either way.
And yes, the people who wanted Harris did actually want less violence, and would have gotten less violence. I know it's comforting and cathartic to demonize them and consider them more ignorant than you because it makes your decision seem more righteous. Harris voters were making the best decision they could with the choices they actually had, to not throw all of their allies (including Palestinians, mind you) under the bus and double down on accelerating fascism for the sake of a moral victory.
But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night. It's not as if it matters now, you all got what you wanted.
Re: Trump Links Greenland Threats to Nobel Peace Prize Snub
#68The full text of the letter CC'd by Trump directly to multiple European governments: "Dear [Norwegian PM] Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect tha…
You know what, I kind of like this letter... as an educative example.
After Trump, this should be a required reading for every American student in their American history class. The letter is short, the premise is stupid, and the way it's written is stupider: middle school kids can write better than this.
A distilled example of the insanity of our time, and the cowardice of people who let this happen.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, the liberals would all be at brunch, at least. I suppose it's "better" when the mask of destructive empires is firmly in place, because at least then they have to maintain some decorum when mass deporting folks. It does kind of suck, though, when you're in Ferguson, Occupy, at Standing Rock, protesting the second Iraq war, in the streets because the police murdered another of your fellow humans, because the f…
>But having read at least one or two books, it feels like, I dunno, folks who were actively stoked about Harris don't want -less- violence, they just want it done to folks they don't see... The thing is you're choosing the violence of American imperialism to be done in your name either way. And yes, the people who wanted Harris did actually want less violence, and would have gotten less violence. I know it's comforti…
Hoss, if you'd written "a grilled cheese sandwich would be a better president than DT" I would have just agreed with you out of hand.
However, given the fact that a) the Democrats seemed to have done literally everything that they could do to lose what they called the "most important election of our lifetimes" and b) I have neither control over who they choose to run nor a vote in a contestable state, I am not going to feel bad for my real anger at them and the folks who support them for failing the rest of us so badly.
The "choices they actually had" are the product of the Democratic party, and I feel no end of anger for them chosing as they did and failing to win.
A lot of us just wanted to see them win, which should have been no problem. I'd much rather not be going to stand in front of an ICE detnetion facility every week.
At the same time, you can pretend that Harris was for a less violent world. She was not, she was for a world order that targeted its violence at folks you don't care about.
I sleep just fine. We have been organizing a long time and will continue.
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#70At this point I only suggest patience for 3 more years and hope for the best. And the new government takes steps to severely reduce the irrational powers of POTUS so as to prevent such non sense to happen again. Oh, and to welcome aboard all us tourists that don't dare to visit the US now.