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Even the trump administration can’t find evidence
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I will remind you that all those billionaires are sitting behind trump at his inauguration.
Immigrants are a scapegoat
Around 1,500 soldiers on standby for deployment to Minneapolis
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
You may not have meant to excuse the sad state we are in by presenting the "both sides are bad" argument. But it does have a strong whiff of it. Both sides are bad. No doubt about it. It has always been that way. But, one side takes being bad to a whole new level. Our choice has always been between bad and less bad. The voters decided to pull the lever for "massively bad" during the last presidential election because…
In agreement with sibling colechristensen but wanted to add. >The voters decided to pull the lever for "massively bad" during the last presidential election because they could not tell the difference. That is being intellectually dishonest, we had already had 4 years of Trump and similarly had 4 years of Kahmala with Biden. Saying they were ignorant or didn't understand is to ignore the electorate and their issues.
The problem is pervasive propaganda and information bubbles...i.e., systemic.
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#64> Around 1,500 soldiers on standby for deployment to Minneapolis
If you don't come to democracy, democracy comes to you.
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#65French here, what was the the 2nd Amendment already? > A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. A yes, "necessary to the security of a free State", so, what about it?
Many Americans don't value the 2nd amendment very much. Public opinion in Minnesota in particular, is largely in favour of strict gun laws. Many anti-gun advocates claim that developing a militia against the government is futile and even counterproductive.
> Public opinion in Minnesota in particular, is largely in favour of strict gun laws. Many anti-gun advocates claim that developing a militia against the government is futile and even counterproductive.
So a "have your cake and eat it too" situation.
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I encourage you to read the oath I'm referring to: It's notable compared to other historic officer oaths in that it deliberately does not mention the President. The word constitution is the key distinction.
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But are the orders lawful? That is the exact question. They are not lawful just because the president issues them.
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#67This is setting things up for a real conflict. Protesters, National Guard called by Walz, Troops coming in. I am absolutely certain the 1500 soldiers going in are hand-selected MAGA morons. Checkmate ... martial law declared!
I'd be surprised if Walz has the spine to deploy the Guard in response.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
You may not have meant to excuse the sad state we are in by presenting the "both sides are bad" argument. But it does have a strong whiff of it. Both sides are bad. No doubt about it. It has always been that way. But, one side takes being bad to a whole new level. Our choice has always been between bad and less bad. The voters decided to pull the lever for "massively bad" during the last presidential election because…
The politics of fear stoked by two sets of extremists egging eachother on is the core reason we're in this mess, the failure to reject both simultaneously and the desire to rule with feelings instead of facts caused it all. I'm not a "whatabout" guy, I'm actively opposed to both extremes. The far left is just as capable of ruling with violence as the far right, they just haven't got the opportunity in this country ye…
> The politics of fear stoked by two sets of extremists egging eachother on is the core reason we're in this mess,
How could you possibly think that the establishment dems that have formed government are 'a set of extremists'?
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
You may not have meant to excuse the sad state we are in by presenting the "both sides are bad" argument. But it does have a strong whiff of it. Both sides are bad. No doubt about it. It has always been that way. But, one side takes being bad to a whole new level. Our choice has always been between bad and less bad. The voters decided to pull the lever for "massively bad" during the last presidential election because…
In agreement with sibling colechristensen but wanted to add. >The voters decided to pull the lever for "massively bad" during the last presidential election because they could not tell the difference. That is being intellectually dishonest, we had already had 4 years of Trump and similarly had 4 years of Kahmala with Biden. Saying they were ignorant or didn't understand is to ignore the electorate and their issues.
We get to give one bit of feedback to "the system" every four years. After four years of Trump, the feedback was "we don't want that". After four years of Biden, the feedback was "not that, either".
My impression of the US electorate is that they don't want illegal immigration, at least not in the volume and with the openness it was happening. They don't want immigrant trains rolling through Mexico. But they don't want the brutality and violence of the current crackdown, either.
They don't want trans people on womens' sports teams, and they don't want the US taking over Greenland.
And so on.
So after four years, the majority of voters were choosing "not Biden, and not the Biden things we don't like" rather than "yes Trump".
The place where it was "yes Trump" was the Republican primary. If you want to fix US politics, get involved with a political party - either one - and have some influence on who comes out of the primary process.
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#70The cold weather there may be a great way to prepare for the assault on Greenland. (Mostly joking :)