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My first year in sales as technical founder

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Re: My first year in sales as technical founder

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this is a bad analogy. at the highest level, poker is entirely math. the player with a better understanding of GTO will demolish someone who tries to "learn people"

This is exactly wrong. At the highest levels you play your opponent, not only GTO. No one can play pure GTO and you exploit how your opponent moves off GTO.

I don't think you've played much GTO poker if you believe this.

Re: My first year in sales as technical founder

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is a bad analogy. at the highest level, poker is entirely math. the player with a better understanding of GTO will demolish someone who tries to "learn people"

Other than the basics, math is not going to help you win at poker over reading people. The shoot is shuffled after each round, you can’t card count your way to victory. Hand win probabilities are basic math that most poker player just learn instinctively because it’s not that complicated.

you do not understand poker. it is a highly mathematical game with incredibly complex probabilistic strategies

Re: My first year in sales as technical founder

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As a co-founder (tech background but haven't coded in a while), I got comfortable with sales best when I hired a sales coach. There are so many things to learn in sales and a coach is often the fastest way to assess your inherent weaknesses and address them head on. I paid $2k/mth about 10 yrs ago; at the time I felt scared to spend so much but once I realized it was an investment in me, and I put in the time to lear…

How did you find a sales coach, how did you determine which was the one for you / any good at their job?

Re: My first year in sales as technical founder

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As a co-founder (tech background but haven't coded in a while), I got comfortable with sales best when I hired a sales coach. There are so many things to learn in sales and a coach is often the fastest way to assess your inherent weaknesses and address them head on. I paid $2k/mth about 10 yrs ago; at the time I felt scared to spend so much but once I realized it was an investment in me, and I put in the time to lear…

How many months did you do it for until you felt comfortable on your own?

My coach has a max timeline of 6 months so you are forced to swim on your own. I felt like I had the hang of it after about 4 months so stopped about then.

(sorry for delayed reply; I don't think HN notifies you of replies?)

Re: My first year in sales as technical founder

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As a co-founder (tech background but haven't coded in a while), I got comfortable with sales best when I hired a sales coach. There are so many things to learn in sales and a coach is often the fastest way to assess your inherent weaknesses and address them head on. I paid $2k/mth about 10 yrs ago; at the time I felt scared to spend so much but once I realized it was an investment in me, and I put in the time to lear…

How did you find a sales coach, how did you determine which was the one for you / any good at their job?

Mine was a referral from the VP of sales (the coach was his dad and many of the reps in our team had been coached by him). Fwiw, his name is Rick Roberge. I think he still coaches. He's can be a bit antagonistic but he's very good at what he does and I'm glad I hired him.

Re: My first year in sales as technical founder

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"1) it is highly scalable and you can easily send out thousands of emails per day, 2) it’s a fairly “democratic” form of outreach where you can achieve great outcomes with good offers sent to the right people, and 3) there’s no platform risk." From a European citizen point of view, this framing ignores a very real constraint: GDPR. In the EU, sending marketing emails is not just a growth tactic, it is regulated perso…

Scaling outreach is tricky when privacy rules change the ground under you. You could look at mailsai to help manage opt outs, consent tracking, and basic compliance steps so nothing slips. It makes outreach steadier, especially when dealing with EU contacts.
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