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Re: SETI Home Flags 100 Signals After Sorting 12B Others

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TheFuzzball wrote: post #41
bulbar wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having it safe to go outside is the very point of a society. Outside of this safety Bubble there's a strong tendency for conflict and war. Only after two cruel world wars and a prolonged cold war, the western world got their shit together and decided 'enough of that'. And even that doesn't seem to hold much longer, so it seems we will only have managed to live peaceful among each other without an immediate conflict w…

We're like a paranoid child terrified that anyone that enters our room is going to steal our Lego, so we must be left alone! Nobody wants our Lego.

You know, if aliens are like Americans and we have oil....

I'm only half-joking.

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Post by pavel_lishin »

Zardoz84 wrote: post #45
andrea76 wrote: post #17

Contact, recommended movie to watch! (For me much better than Interstellar)

The book is far better. They completely removed the "artist signature" from the movie.

I think both are fine, actually. The movie definitely departed from the book, especially near the end.

Re: SETI Home Flags 100 Signals After Sorting 12B Others

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Post by sharts »

singularity2001 wrote: post #57
pluralmonad wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In your theory, what is the structure that supports sentience?

Stellar plasma supports long-lived, self-organizing magnetohydrodynamic (MHD) structures whose coupled electromagnetic and fluid dynamics implement distributed information processing. Sentience would supervene on these MHD attractors rather than on matter in a solid or neural form.

This sounds so complicated while I’m just here making my GUI interface with Visual Basic to trace an IP address.

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Post by zardo »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #6
bkeyes wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if you hit the transmit button.

And that's why they won't find anything, IMHO. Anyone who spends five minutes thinking about the consequences of deliberately transmitting interstellar beacon signals will conclude that the only safe, sane thing to do is STFU. At the same time, no advanced civilizations will be using coherent RF communications that stand out from the noise floor, because it makes little sense to keep doing that once your civilization…

> Anyone who spends five minutes thinking about the consequences of deliberately transmitting interstellar beacon signals will conclude that the only safe, sane thing to do is STFU.

Even if we credit the idea that it's unsafe to transmit, there are reasons to do it anyway, e.g. you have a holy text and a mission to share it with the universe.

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Post by esbranson »

We have a statutory office within the US Department of Defense meant to track UFOs (AARO).[1] Why would such things be sending electromagnetic signals from outer space?

Literally thousands of witnesses. It's very odd to say "aliens may exist, but those nuclear weapons officers are crazy, aliens would definitely be sending signals from elsewhere, they would not be and are not here."

[1] 50 USC § 3373 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/3373

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Post by esbranson »

singularity2001 wrote: post #43
thegrim000 wrote: post #39

I've pretty much given up on traditional radio SETI ever finding anything, as its sole focus is on trying to find terrawatt/mega scale, repeating, intentional alien communication beacons, and nothing else. As I don't believe aliens would make such things, I don't believe traditional SETI will ever find anything. Out telescopes aren't sensitive enough to detect the power levels of comm signals that aliens would use in…

On the other hand, I hold the slightly fringe theory that suns are sentient beings, and by just watching the stars, we may see them communicate.

> suns are sentient beings, and by just watching the stars, we may see them communicate

With radio signals?

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Post by estimator7292 »

singularity2001 wrote: post #43
thegrim000 wrote: post #39

I've pretty much given up on traditional radio SETI ever finding anything, as its sole focus is on trying to find terrawatt/mega scale, repeating, intentional alien communication beacons, and nothing else. As I don't believe aliens would make such things, I don't believe traditional SETI will ever find anything. Out telescopes aren't sensitive enough to detect the power levels of comm signals that aliens would use in…

On the other hand, I hold the slightly fringe theory that suns are sentient beings, and by just watching the stars, we may see them communicate.

I'm there with you. Also mycelia networks. Zero chance that forest-spanning neural networks have never woken up and started thinking

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Post by qingcharles »

rippeltippel wrote: post #30
pokstad wrote: post #3

> They have been pointing China’s Five-hundred-meter Aperture Spherical Telescope, a radio telescope referred to as FAST, at these targets since July, hoping to see the signals again. This is how you get Trisolarians knocking on your door!

I guess we'll find out in a few decades.

I for one welcome our new...

Re: SETI Home Flags 100 Signals After Sorting 12B Others

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Post by markus_zhang »

qingcharles wrote: post #69
markus_zhang wrote: post #7

I used to run this on my computer in the early 2000s. I wish we had a similar project nowadays.

This made me go back and find the S@H team I started in 1999: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=3346...

That was really interesting. Really wish we got a real deal of aliens in the next say ten years. The tictac thing as well as all those congress hearing got me excited.
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