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The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #24
hinkley wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found a used copy of Warcraft 3 at the store about ten years after it came out, proudly brought it home, fired it up and didn’t recall the graphics being quite that awful, but the first time I tried to scroll the map sideways it shot to the far end because they didn’t build a timing loop onto the animation and I shut it down, disappointed. Unfortunately they never released a remastered version of it. They seem to h…

Yeah, Reforged was received very poorly so they basically end of life'd the franchise. There is a thriving community with a couple different choices for servers to play on. So I'm sure there's a fix for your mouse speed issue. Check Twitch for people streaming it: https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/warcraft-iii Grubby, one of the early esports stars, still streams it regularly and hosts his own for fun tourname…

Reforged was received poorly because it was a lazy half assed job that was a blatant cash grab. Not because culturally we have moved on and the game has aged beyond being fun

You probably knew this, but wanted to make sure others knew that the reason they ended the franchise is not because there was no market, but instead it was pure unadulterated greed that led to that situation. In an alternate reality they would have actually done the remake justice and there would be a lively competitive scene

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by neal_jones »

mrandish wrote: post #35
woopwoop wrote: post #4

Last time I flew Delta they no longer had this bot, which made me sad. One of my favorite parts of flying was getting absolutely crushed into a tiny cube by the airplane seat's easy chess bot, and then again by the airplane seat itself when the person in front of me reclines their seat.

> then again by the airplane seat itself when the person in front of me reclines their seat. This reminds me of the time I had my laptop open on the tilt-down tray and the very large man in the seat in front just repositioned his girth (not even reclining the seat) but it flexed the seat back enough that my laptop screen was momentarily caught between the tray below and recessed lip above and was almost crushed.

Opened a laptop on my last flight and this was my immediate and persistent fear

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by afandian »

hinkley wrote: post #18
throwaway6977 wrote: post #13

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Chess on M series Macs has the same issue. Even level 1 is easily 2000+ Elo because of the same thing.

I found a used copy of Warcraft 3 at the store about ten years after it came out, proudly brought it home, fired it up and didn’t recall the graphics being quite that awful, but the first time I tried to scroll the map sideways it shot to the far end because they didn’t build a timing loop onto the animation and I shut it down, disappointed. Unfortunately they never released a remastered version of it. They seem to h…

I think it means gcc -O0

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by fragmede »

dmuino wrote: post #23
School-Cotton wrote: post #19

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Note that 2000 on lichess is probably weaker than 2000 on chess.com (or USCF or FIDE)

That's true, I'm 2050-2100 lichess, around 1800 on chess.com. Never played a rated tournament but played some rated players who were 1400-1500 rated USCF, and they were roughly my strength, maybe a bit better. Still the Delta bot, easy mode, was much, much better than me.

Casually just in the top 2-3 percent of chess players globally world wide humble brag. I'm not that good at it, just a little bit!

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by citrus1330 »

School-Cotton wrote: post #19
sbrother wrote: post #17

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1. Uh, isn't 2000 like extremely fucking good? 2. I played a chess bot on Delta on easy and it was really bad, felt like random moves. I beat it trivially and I am actually bad at chess, ~1000 on chess.com. I wonder if this one is different?

Note that 2000 on lichess is probably weaker than 2000 on chess.com (or USCF or FIDE)

It's still significantly stronger than the average online chess player

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by fragmede »

cheeze wrote: post #46
tantalor wrote: post #42

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The best part about this is sneaking a look at your opponents screen if you are lucky enough to sit behind them.

Does this... help with chess?

you can see the possible moves they're thinking of making

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by CursedSilicon »

farialima wrote: post #41
dyauspitr wrote: post #31

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I don’t have 5 days to travel across the country.

- it’s 3 days not 5 (e.g leaving NYC Wednesday morning arriving SF Saturday evening) - the internet connection is excellent (even in most tunnels) so you can work, have video meetings, etc, not to mention play chess online

I was rather disappointed by the internet connection on the Cascades line (going Seattle --> Portland and back). As far as I could tell, they use T-Mobile for backhaul. Who are headquartered in Seattle. Yet the connection barely seemed to work for about half of the journey

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by brewdad »

stevage wrote: post #60
JALTU wrote: post #2

On the other hand, the poker apps encourage me to consider a career change. I regularly crush the "opposition" with my card-counting skills. World Series of Poker, I am all-in!!! ;-)

Card counting in poker?

Gotta keep track of how many more cards you get in seven card stud.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by microtherion »

throwaway6977 wrote: post #13
strstr wrote: post #11

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My suspicion is that the bot was a fairly standard chess bot, but the difficulties were set based on computation time. As airplane computers got better, it turned into a beast. As a result, if you tried this on older planes, it might have been “easier”

Chess on M series Macs has the same issue. Even level 1 is easily 2000+ Elo because of the same thing.

Oh, this led me down a rabbit hole…

I was maintainer of the Chess app from the early 2000s to about 2015. We first noticed in 2004 that level 1 (which was then "Computer thinks for 1 second per move) was getting stronger with each hardware generation (and in fact stronger than myself).

So we introduced 3 new levels, with the Computer thinking 1, 2, or 3 moves ahead. This solved the problem of the engine getting stronger (though the jump from "3 moves ahead" to "1 second" got worse and worse).

A few years after I had handed off the project, somebody decided to meddle with the level setting code (I was not privy to that decision). The time based levels were entirely replaced with depth based levels (which eliminates the strength inflation problem, but unfortunately was not accompanied by UI changes). But for some reason, parsing of the depth setting was broken as well, so the engine now always plays at depth 40 (stronger than ever).

This should be an easy fix, if Apple gets around to make it (Chess was always a side project for the maintainers). I filed feedback report 21609379.

It seems that somebody else had already discovered this and fixed it in a fork of the open source project: https://github.com/aglee/Chess/commit/dfb16b3f32e5a6633d2119...

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by Nition »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #5

I wonder if they gave the chess bot X seconds of thinking time in an era when computers were slower? The way you set difficulty for turn based game ai is that you limit how far ahead the algorithm searches. If you set the lookahead based on compute time your difficulties will be way out of line if someone upgrades the CPU.

Alternatively, since there's only one difficulty provided ("easy"), I wondered if the programmer have selected say, DifficultyLevels array index 0 meaning the easiest, but it was actually sorted hardest first.
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