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Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by zdragnar »

askvictor wrote: post #51
jmward01 wrote: post #23

Anyone in the US military that has bought 'military grade' Bates shoes and pulled them out of a locker after a year just to see the soles disintegrate can likely tell you the value of 'military grade'.

Shoes need to be used, or the rubber and/or glue holding the sole on will deteriorate.

There's gotta be more to it than that. I've got a pair of dress shoes I wear maybe thee times a year at most, and I've had them for somewhere between ten and fifteen years, perhaps longer.

The soles (rubber because winter) are in perfect condition, and the leather isn't too bad either, though I've not really conditioned it enough and it's starting to show.

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by culi »

somat wrote: post #16
russdill wrote: post #4

If you buy a consumer product labeled "military grade" you are buying snake oil. And not just snake oil, incredibly over priced snake oil.

Military-grade just means it has a spec, now, I will admit having a spec is nice, very nice. but in general it says little about the actual quality of the item. And if the spec can't be found or there is no spec. Probably best to stay away, in those cases they are not even selling you the snake oil but the sound of it sloshing in the bottle.

There is no legal requirement for it to refer to MIL-SPEC. More often than not it is just pure marketing without any actual spec tied to it

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by dismalpedigree »

chneu wrote: post #56
russdill wrote: post #4

If you buy a consumer product labeled "military grade" you are buying snake oil. And not just snake oil, incredibly over priced snake oil.

Basically same with any company with "Patriot" or "Veteran" in the name. It's just a weak pander to people's weak egos. Freedumb, if you will.

Tactical everything!

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by gleenn »

isoprophlex wrote: post #48

This is why you always bury a rugged, big diameter tube, and run the cables inside of that.

My friend also always runs multiple string lines through during construction. Later if a wire breaks or you want an additional cable or upgrade, you attach your new wire to a string and pull the string from the other end all the way through. If they had done this, they could have simply dragged a new fiber optic cable through.

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by esseph »

daedrdev wrote: post #50
anonym29 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Military grade: mass produced by the lowest bidder

There are plenty of things where mil spec is extremely strict and high quality. They wont be sold to consumers as they are priced accordingly

A company can not sell a product to consumers cheaper than it can sell to the federal government, and the federal government contract normally comes first. A lot of the stuff you can buy (minus restricted items), it'll just cost you.

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by duk3luk3 »

alienchow wrote: post #42
dbetteridge wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Came to the thread to see if anyone else had mentioned conduit. It's cheap as chips and saves you a lot of future brick cutting or concrete breaking

I do have PVC conduits under the flooring. You can see the photos here: https://alienchow.dev/post/homelab1/ In theory I can pull a new cable through. But practically it might be tough due to the number of bends (shelter -> wall -> vent -> ceiling -> wall -> floor -> room). In the worst case scenario I can give it a try, but it's probably going to destroy the new fibre cable when I pull it through. For now the connec…

you can always try the plastic bag + vacuum cleaner trick - take a thin flexible rope, tie it to a small plastic bag, stuff the small plastic bag into the conduit, use a vacuum cleaner at the other end to suck the plastic bag & rope through. You can then use the rope to pull through new cable. If you make the rope twice the length of the conduit, you can keep it in there indefinitely to pull through new cable whenever you want.

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by gleenn »

zdragnar wrote: post #61
askvictor wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shoes need to be used, or the rubber and/or glue holding the sole on will deteriorate.

There's gotta be more to it than that. I've got a pair of dress shoes I wear maybe thee times a year at most, and I've had them for somewhere between ten and fifteen years, perhaps longer. The soles (rubber because winter) are in perfect condition, and the leather isn't too bad either, though I've not really conditioned it enough and it's starting to show.

Both can be true. I have specifically heard that shoe glue needs to be repeatedly compressed to be maintained or it will disintegrate. Anecdotally as well, I had a pair of quality, lightly used, but old, hiking boots that had the sole completely separate after a day of heavy use. The runber sole completely detached from the leather shell inner shoe. The crazy thing was that BOTH boots failed within 20 minutes of each other.

Re: My Home Fibre Network Disintegrated

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Post by CamperBob2 »

chneu wrote: post #59
alienchow wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure either. It's not an air tight bomb shelter and it's used like an average storeroom, storing stuff like winter jackets, suitcases and paint. I do use small amounts of Calcium Chloride based dessicants to keep the room dry.

If it's underground at all, check for radon.

Radon is a noble gas. It's not going to affect fiber or wiring... but yes, if you're going to spend much time down there, definitely a good idea to check for it.
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