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Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by phillipcarter »

pbohun wrote: post #31
epolanski wrote: post #29

I liked the path windows was going in late 2010s. WSL, power toys, many great utils, great performance. But it has since then stalled and got increasingly worse. Especially with this AI shoving everywhere, not even mentioning getting ads at some point in notifications and start menu. I'm not particularly in love with MacOS either (but have no realistic alternative on my MacBooks). I'm more and more inclined of switch…

It sounds weird to say, but Steve Ballmer was probably the best CEO of Microsoft.

Yeah, it sounds weird because the person you’re replying to is using examples of things that came in under Nadella, not Ballmer.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by doodlesdev »

1over137 wrote: post #18
the__alchemist wrote: post #2

Out of the loop: Why is Windows 11 discussion trending over the past few months? It was released 4 years ago, and the most notable changes from the previous edition are a tabbed file browser, and the taskbar icons are now in the middle.

Windows 10 just stopped getting security updates some weeks ago. So people that had been sticking with 10 are now considering 11.

You can still get security updated by enrolling in the Extended Support branch. Did it in a relative's computer and it seems it will get security updates for at least an extra year, with the advantage it won't get any feature updates too (a really nice bonus IMO).

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by greenavocado »

driggs wrote: post #39
bob1029 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there are 20 years of technical debt The only part of windows that really matters in the long run is win32 which has been extremely stable. You could go back to XP and not lose that many features. The fact that modern windows runs like ass has very little to do with backwards compatibility.

Windows 2000 or Windows XP - with security updates and modern hardware support - is exactly what I want.

Zone94 is still releasing modern Windows XP distributions and OneCore API brings Windows 10-level app support to Windows XP.

https://github.com/shorthorn-project/One-Core-API-Binaries

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by Loughla »

qwerpy wrote: post #48
nilamo wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, too, am irrationally furious at microsoft for forcing me to look at nature scapes and offering a link to learn more if I wanted.

What got me to angrily turn it off was a gigantic closeup of a moose face. It’s kind of funny now that I think about it but I have two 32” monitors and I really did not need 64” of moose lips and wet nostrils.

Honestly that sounds like something I would set as my work background just as a gag though.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by tester756 »

c'mon folks, stop being naive - this is bullshit test :D

"Windows 11 is running on unsupported hardware"

I've been using W10 and W11 Pro versions daily and I don't feel any difference except task bar search menu performance (especially this on corpo laptop, on PC this is fine)

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by hackyhacky »

pbohun wrote: post #31
epolanski wrote: post #29

I liked the path windows was going in late 2010s. WSL, power toys, many great utils, great performance. But it has since then stalled and got increasingly worse. Especially with this AI shoving everywhere, not even mentioning getting ads at some point in notifications and start menu. I'm not particularly in love with MacOS either (but have no realistic alternative on my MacBooks). I'm more and more inclined of switch…

It sounds weird to say, but Steve Ballmer was probably the best CEO of Microsoft.

Or: Steve Ballmer oversaw the decline of Mircosoft's flagship product, but left before he could be blamed for it.

A lot of Windows' current problems can be traced back to the Ballmer era, including the framework schizophrenia, as Microsoft shifted between Win32, UWP, WPF, and god knows what else. This has lead to the current chaotic and disjointed UI experience, and served to confuse and drive away developers. Repeatedly sacrificing reliable and consistent UX while chasing shiny and new technologies is no way to run an OS.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by Aurornis »

nilamo wrote: post #20
richard_chase wrote: post #14

I switched to Linux after Windows started showing me propaganda on the screen where you enter your password. To me, that's diabolical and forced me to make the switch. Sorry, I don't wish to "Learn more about Black-Owned Businesses" just to access my computer.

I, too, am irrationally furious at microsoft for forcing me to look at nature scapes and offering a link to learn more if I wanted.

Reading HN threads about Windows makes me wonder some times if I’m using a completely different version of Windows on my workstation. I guess I also haven’t seen any “propaganda” among my rotating selection of landscape scenery.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by pico303 »

spikej wrote: post #36
epolanski wrote: post #29

I liked the path windows was going in late 2010s. WSL, power toys, many great utils, great performance. But it has since then stalled and got increasingly worse. Especially with this AI shoving everywhere, not even mentioning getting ads at some point in notifications and start menu. I'm not particularly in love with MacOS either (but have no realistic alternative on my MacBooks). I'm more and more inclined of switch…

Even without the AI, it's replacing native apps with web based ones. Case in point: Notepad. It's slower than WordPad on Win 10... and crashes!

I remember reading that even the Start menu is now a React app.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Post by blibble »

Flux159 wrote: post #15

"What Andy giveth, Bill taketh away" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_and_Bill%27s_law On a more serious note, I really only use Windows for games & I'm still always frustrated with how many updates (& restarts during updates) Windows needs. My fans are always constantly spinning on Windows too (laptop or desktop) whereas my Mac & Linux machines are generally silent outside of heavy load.

> My fans are always constantly spinning on Windows too (laptop or desktop) whereas my Mac & Linux machines are generally silent outside of heavy load.

defender seemingly needs to check every 10ms that you still don't have a virus

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