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RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by reactordev »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #59
reactordev wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever, Glide was amazing! So much so that Nvidia bought them. I remember what a huge difference it was having a dedicated 3D card capable of fast 2D and 3D vs the software rasterizer. Yes, NovaLogic games ran better. Yes, you can play Doom at decent FPS. Yes, SpecOps ran at full monitor resolution. They had a LOT to brag about.

Glide is precisely what made me hate 3dfx and was glad they died. As a developer, I'm sure Glide was great. But as a kid that really wanted a 3dfx Voodoo card for Christmas so I could play all the sweet 3D games that only supported Glide, I was upset when my dad got me a Rendition Verite 2200. But I didn't want to seem ungrateful, so my frustration was pointed to 3dfx for releasing a proprietary API. I was glad that…

lol, agreed. Today, Glide feels like a predecessor to OpenGL. At the time it was awesome but as soon as DirectX came around along with OpenGL it was over. 1999 was the beginning of the NVidia train.

Thanks for the laugh about your disappointment with your dad. I had a similar thing happen with mine when I asked for Doom and him being a Mac guy, he came back with Bungie’s Marathon. I was upset until I played Marathon… I then realized how wise my father was.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by theodric »

brcmthrowaway wrote: post #53
joshu wrote: post #51

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the rockchip hw is really exciting lately, in general. i am using a bunch of them for streaming.

Aren't they GPL violators?

Seems that way, but if you want hardware, you have to buy the hardware that exists.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by morshu9001 »

azalemeth wrote: post #13
xattt wrote: post #4

> Cyberpunk barely hits 16 FPS average on the Pi 5. This is a lot better than my memories of forcing a Pentium MMX 200 MHz PC with 32 MB SDRAM and an ATI All-in-Wonder Pro of running games from the early 2000s.

I'm pretty sure I completed Morrowind for the first time ever using both wine and a celeron. Likewise before that with VirtualPC (remember that?) on Mac OS (note the space!) and Age of Empires (not even Rise of Rome!). Single-digit FPS can _absolutely_ be playable if you're a desperate enough ten-year-old...

I've only ever played Skyrim on a 2009 13" MacBook Pro in Wine. It took like 30min to load and ran at like 4fps. But I didn't play past the first area.

Wasn't AoE1 released for PPC Mac natively? AoE2 was probably the best Mac game ever.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by bityard »

drnick1 wrote: post #16

I think the conclusion here is that Raspberry Pis are now too pricey (especially when factoring in the various required accessories) and rarely make sense for typical desktop use vs. x86 mini-PCs. They make even less sense compared to various used thin clients that can generally be found on eBay.

For desktop use cases, sure. But the Pi's target market is makers and educators who want small and efficient and can interface easily with peripherals like cameras and GPIO. Desktop users and low-end home labbers are a distant second.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by ollien »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #50
jacquesm wrote: post #35

This is a funny project. Too many people taking this serious, it is more of a 'can it be done' because the physical interfaces suggest that it should be possible, and then to follow through on it to prove that yes it actually can be done. And tbh much better than I expected it to work. I can imagine that for GPU compute heavy and interconnect bandwidth constrained applications a combination like this might actually b…

it's extra funny to me because the Raspberry Pi SoC is basically a little CPU riding on a big GPU (well, the earlier ones were. Maybe the latest ones shift the balance of power a bit). In fact, to this day the GPU is still the one driving the boot sequence. So plugging a RasPi into a 5090 is "just" swapping the horse for one 10,000x bigger (someone correct my ratio of the RasPi5 GPU to the RTX5090)

I'm not very familiar with this layer of things; what does it mean for a GPU to drive a boot sequence? Is there something massively parallel that is well suited for the GPU?

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by cmxch »

wincy wrote: post #31

I assume the “anti-cheat” he brings up in Doom: The Dark Ages is actually Denuvo, which likely would have some issues running, although a January 2025 post on Phoronix indicates maybe it does work, or Denuvo support is being worked on? [0] Doom The Dark Ages is a single player game, so I’m not sure who you’d be cheating against, aside from maybe some real Buzz Killington’s saying you’re “cheating Microsoft by piratin…

Denuvo is malware, not anticheat.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by baby_souffle »

ollien wrote: post #66
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #50

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it's extra funny to me because the Raspberry Pi SoC is basically a little CPU riding on a big GPU (well, the earlier ones were. Maybe the latest ones shift the balance of power a bit). In fact, to this day the GPU is still the one driving the boot sequence. So plugging a RasPi into a 5090 is "just" swapping the horse for one 10,000x bigger (someone correct my ratio of the RasPi5 GPU to the RTX5090)

I'm not very familiar with this layer of things; what does it mean for a GPU to drive a boot sequence? Is there something massively parallel that is well suited for the GPU?

> what does it mean for a GPU to drive a boot sequence

It's a quirk of the broadcom chips that the rpi family uses; the GPU is the first bit of silicon to power up and do things. The GPU specifically is a bit unusual, but the general idea of "smaller thing does initial bring up, then powers up $main_cpu" is not unusual once $main_cpu is ~ powerful enough to run linux.

Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by [deleted] »

ollien wrote: post #66
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's extra funny to me because the Raspberry Pi SoC is basically a little CPU riding on a big GPU (well, the earlier ones were. Maybe the latest ones shift the balance of power a bit). In fact, to this day the GPU is still the one driving the boot sequence. So plugging a RasPi into a 5090 is "just" swapping the horse for one 10,000x bigger (someone correct my ratio of the RasPi5 GPU to the RTX5090)

I'm not very familiar with this layer of things; what does it mean for a GPU to drive a boot sequence? Is there something massively parallel that is well suited for the GPU?

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Re: RTX 5090 and Raspberry Pi: Can it game?

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Post by geerlingguy »

scottjg wrote: post #47
geerlingguy wrote: post #43

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There are definitely some use cases where it works out, others where it doesn't; I spent a bit of time testing that side of things late last year: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2025/big-gpus-dont-need-bi...

a great post that definitely inspired this one. i link to it in the first paragraph of my blog post.

I feel like maybe by the end of this year someone with access to a bunch of RTX Pro 6000s will have them running on a Pi or RK3588 lol.
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