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Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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post #51

Politics should never drive technical decisions unless the people involved actually understand the technology. When policy is made without that expertise, open source becomes a political slogan instead of a sustainable ecosystem.

At first your comment reads as negative, but you actually like this "call for evidence" then, as they're explicitly asking for feedback about it? Not sure why it reads so negative when you're actually seemingly agreeing with the submission.

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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post #51

Politics should never drive technical decisions unless the people involved actually understand the technology. When policy is made without that expertise, open source becomes a political slogan instead of a sustainable ecosystem.

I actually think it's a great idea to minimize government dependence on specific vendors at a policy level. Perhaps these policies shouldn't be too detailed, but signing away future freedom ('nobody ever fired for choosing $entranched_bigcorp') should not be the path of least resistance for decision makers.

Fully agree!

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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It's some utopian dream to think the death of the EU would decentralize power. It's currently a necessary evil to put pressure on the already centralized power of the US global hegemony. Without the EU, the world is controlled by the US and China.

> It's currently a necessary evil to put pressure on the already centralized power of the US global hegemony.

How can I opt out of this "necessary evil"?

I don't want to be part of this feud between powers as I don't want the EU to be a world power since in all world powers 90% of the wealth just concentrates to the top 1% anyway, so becoming one would not benefit me. Will housing be more affordable once we become a "world power"? Or fix healthcare shortages?

Like for example, the public transport and healthcare where I live have been going to shit past 10 years plus housing become unaffordable. Those issues are not China's fault, Trump's fault and not Putin's fault no matter how much they try to gaslight us otherwise. Putin and Trump didn't come here and inflate our currency creating speculative bubbles that popped, our own politicians did.

So no, it's not a "necessary evil", it's a manufactured one via FUD and scaremongering, to deflect blame and responsibility for failures of local politicians and copot public option in the direction the 1% financieres desire since their kids won't be on the frontline of this new world war they're trying to stir up, we'll all be just casualties and I don't want to be one.

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

#65

I don't see how EU can develop a thriving software industry with its love for control and regulation.

Europe already have a thriving software industry, and in fact is probably the leader when it comes to having the most influential and biggest FOSS projects, since so many of them originate in Europe :)

If I had to chose between "control and regulation and healthy community of FOSS" vs "no control or regulation, and healthy community only for for-profit companies", I know what side I'm choosing.

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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All the European Commission is interested in is getting software cheaper or for free.

If they were truly interested in freeing themselves from non-EU software, thereby preventing potential interference from (mostly) the US, they wouldn’t have chosen the path of soften the GDPR - that move mainly made the big tech happier.

And don’t even get me started with Chat Control.

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this was disused a few days ago in a similar HN comment thread. Turns out, the US has way more data-tapping anti-privacy laws than the EU - only that the US more or less secretly adopted them and forbids any company from telling their end-users. Whereas you hear more about "data regulation-attempts" in the EU because it actually still has very strong privacy-rules and when trying to alter them there is a real…

It is pointless trying to explain to corporate company man who just repeat the narrative of their bosses.

But it's helpful to provide the counterpoint for anyone else reading this.

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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post #51

Politics should never drive technical decisions unless the people involved actually understand the technology. When policy is made without that expertise, open source becomes a political slogan instead of a sustainable ecosystem.

At first your comment reads as negative, but you actually like this "call for evidence" then, as they're explicitly asking for feedback about it? Not sure why it reads so negative when you're actually seemingly agreeing with the submission.

This shows that the people in charge have no idea. If they understood the topic, there would be no need for evidence.

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

#69

Maybe the EU can develop its own version of Linux OS, just like North Korea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS -- edit When legislators start getting involved they will want to inevitably have their "own" version of something and their own SLAs and contracts. The reason they went with Microsoft/IBM/Oracle and others back in the day for software solutions is; they know on a piece of paper what they are getting…

Is all the distributions where most core developers already live in Europe/EU not enough for you? Take a look at where most of the active contributors live for some distributions, and I think you'd be surprised :)

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At first your comment reads as negative, but you actually like this "call for evidence" then, as they're explicitly asking for feedback about it? Not sure why it reads so negative when you're actually seemingly agreeing with the submission.

This shows that the people in charge have no idea. If they understood the topic, there would be no need for evidence.

Can't you have some idea, yet want to validate this with the broader ecosystem? I frequently ask people for their opinion about stuff, even when I have my opinion. Should commissions/governments not do that? Seems like a fantasy to think your government could know everything without asking the population what they think.
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